Dear Mr. Azad,
Heaps of thanks.
You are 99% correct and nicely explained.
But,
KUKUER ER LEZ KHAKHONO SOZA HOI NA, Specially when dog's boss is close or near to the dog
Now, Jamat - RAZAKAR-Paki supporters, deem that their lord (present Army Backed Military Government) is beside them!
So, these dogs (JANWAR) have started barking (like, "we fought with arms for independence of Bangladesh", "there is no war criminal in Bangladesh", "Jamat & Razakar - AlBadar etc did not done & supported any evil activities(killing, raping , looting, stealing and helping to do these) during liberation war of 1971", "forget the past" etc)
But these dogs do not think that BEER BANGALEE is much stronger than their 'current' lord present Army Backed Military Government.
They have for gotten that these BEER BANGALEE (except Jamat-RAZAKAR-
This OPEN & huge number of surrender is a world record.
Finally, shame & hate to all Jamat-RAZAKAR -Paki
On 4/1/08, AbdurRahim Azad <Arahim.azad@gmail.com > wrote:
Mr. Mushfique ProdhanYou have very skillfully avoided the main issue that I have pointed out.Mr. Md. Mustafa Kamal has tried to put his own words in MowlanaBhasani's mouth. The word Malaon is only found in a pro-Pakistanicommunal person's vocabulary, those who thrieves on communal politics.Ordinary Muslims of Bangladesh maintains the policy of "live and let live"about people of other religions. Communal harmony has always been theessence of rural life of Bangladesh. Bangali Musalmans had alwaysmaintained this policy throughout 800+ years of the muslim existence inBangladesh. If you read and analyze the history or go through classicalMuslim Bangla literature from Middle ages to mid-tweentieth century ....the word Malaon is absolutely absent .....[From Shah Garibullah and AmirHamza to Alaol, from Mir Musarraf Hossain to Kazi Nazrul Islam, even inPoet Farruk Ahmed's (Tamuddun Mojlish) literature].Often, a person can be identified by the vocabulary he uses: The wordMalaon is an unique colloquial of the Pakistanponthis [Just like in youradopted homeland America, if someone utters the n-word , you at onceknow fact that he is a racist ... I don't think I have to elaborate here any more ..]The deafists of 71 in Bangladesh express themselves in many ways: sometimesin the guise of "trying to prioritize Bangladesh," but clearly trying to promotePaki-ideology..... I think you need to re-acquint yourself with pre-Bangladesh history ofthis region. Mowlana Bashani had always been a pro-peasant [farm-laborer]mass leader and was very close to the workers and communist movement ofthe then East Pakistan and a close associate of Moni Singh during fifties andsixtees. As I read in history, the sino-soviet rift caused political differencebetween Moni Singh and Mowlana Bashani. Moni Singh followed Moscow lineof peaceful transition to socialism. His party and and the people in the sphereof his party's political influence followed the line of mass-movement againstPakistani oppression for democracy and became an ally of Mujib's AwamiLeague.They were termed as "revisionists" and Awami-league's B-team by thepro-Chinese communists and their mass-organiorganisations led by Mowlana Bhasani. Mowlana Bhasani himself has always been staunchly anti-imperialistand anti-American and was utterly impreseed by Mao Tse Tung's revolution inChina, because he thought that was the only path for the emancipation of thepeasantry of Bnagladesh.Your assertion that "Comred Moni Sigh was never a believer of independantBangladesh, and kept on fighting to stablish/restablish undivided India. On thatpretext he is a traitor to Bangladesh. His ideology is still very much creatingterrorism around Bangladesh in the name of Sorbohara Andolon." is a blatantdistortion of history and 100% wrong [Please prove your statement withauthentic documentation]I don't find any credible source in histrory books that tells us about the existanceof any credible "Akhandya Bharat (Undivided India) endeavour after 1947.Even the Hundutva people do not have that in their agenda ... As a matter theHundutva's like Pakistan that gives them sufficient political agenda against theordinary Muslims of India.. ......Contary to popular belief, a hindu communalparty Hindu Mohasovha initiated the proposal for the division of Bengal notMuslim League.The Muslim League leaders Abul Hasim, Secretary of BengalMuslim League supported Suhrawardy's move for soverign Bengal [April-May 1947]..In fact the concept of a sovereign independent Bengal had its origins in thepast.[ Lahore resolution, March 1940.] .....The uprooted people from India specially the Mohjirs in the ghettos of Karachiand some elderly Biharis in camps of Bangladesh regrets the partition of 1947because of their misfortune as a result.[See][ ..... just laments for their miserable plights ..nothing political ......].In any case, Mr. Mushfiq, you are totally wrong about Moni Singh ....He never belonged to any such thing called "Sorbohara Andolon". Theso-called Sorbohara leader was a BUET alumni Siraj Sikder who waskilled by the police while under custody during Mujib's period (1974).The asoociates of Moni Singh was in the forefront of mass movements inpre-liberation Bangladesh [1962-1971] The Anti-Martial law, Anti-Ayub movementof 1962, Mujib's 6-point movement of 1966-67, Student's 11-point movement of1969 that acted as a precursor to the Liberation struggle of 1971.To make the long story short, I must mention that Moni Singh was one of the topcivillian leader of our MuktiJuddho aganst the Pakistani occupiers.....Moni Singh was a member of the advisory committee of the Bangladesh Government inexile (1971). The present military backed CTG of Bangladesh recognisedthat fact and named the street in front of Baitul Mokarram as a tribute tohis contribution towards the freedom of Bangladesh.So, please maintain your dignity and PLEASE don't indulge yourself in thedistortion of our history.At the end, I must tell you that your comment "If the presence of just one ormay be two Pakistani nationals as the member of Notun Bangladesh makethe whole group as Pakistanponthi, (there are more Indian nationals in NBthan Pakistan)" --- almost sounds like - Ghore ke ami kola kahi ni ......As faras I know, no one has called Notun Bangladesh Pakistanponti yet.I would also not call this group Pakistanponti --- it remains to be seen howthings develops .... sooner or later things will reveal itself, just like yourmentioned muktomona has proved itself a dogmatic atheist site in the guiseof secularism.BTW, if you read all the postings by Mr. Md. Mustafa Kamal in differentforums you would see a clear picture of who he really is! I have no wayknowing, what his ulterior motives are ....... but he has shown his ideologicalbias towards Pakistan many many times ...A. Rahim Azad.On 3/31/08, Musfique Prodhan <chena_kew@yahoo.com > wrote:
We welcome Mr Abdur Rahim Azad in the debate. However, the presence of some false accusations against Mr Kamal and Notun Bangladesh have only weakened his purpose to express his version of "truth".Calling one Pakistaniponthi is serious. Specialy when the accused only tried to prioritize Bangladesh. To the utter dismay of a specific quater (who dominates our intellectual arena), there surfaced a group of writers, whose first and foremost priority is Bangladesh and her wellbeing. So rightfully, they would protest any act of agression against Bangladesh. Since all these act of aggression have been perpetrated by India against Bangladesh, hence protest against her cannot be the act of any Pakistanponthi.Unless otherwise, one is Indian citizen, or in their payroll, or a blind beleived of "Akhandya Bharat (Undivided India), or lives in pre independance Bangladesh, no one could deny the facts that, Bangladesh have been under direct threat from India, since 1971. If one prefers to be blind on purpose, then regardless how many evidence are produced on behalf of such claims, he/she would be unmoved.If the presence of just one or may be two Pakistani nationals as the member of Notun Bangladesh make the whole group as Pakistanponthi, (there are more Indian nationals in NB than Pakistan) then what Mr Azad would call Muktomona where the Indian nationals dominate? Such accusations could only come from a desperate mind.I wonder why is it too hard for some people to accept the existance of pro Bangladesh writers? Why they want to suppress the patriotic writers by branding them as Pakistanponthi/Rajakar etc.? Only the ghosts of Mir Jafors, Jagat Seths, Umi Chand, Rai Bollob, Ghaseti Begums, could portray the pro Bangladeshis as pro Pakistani. People who are afraid to changes, people who are scared to loose their previlage, people who want to dominate Bangladesh forever, people who bear the facists ideology of Bakshal, and people whose unconditional loyality to India, are the ones who would engage in all forms of propaganda, including hate speech and false accusations, against pro Bangladesh writers.Due to the technological development, lot of bitter facts are no longer hidden which some people so far have been successfull in putting under the rugs. Comred Moni Sigh was never a beleiver of independant Bangladesh, and kept on fighting to stablish/restablish undivided India. On that pretext he is a traitor to Bangladesh. His ideology is still very much creating terrorism around Bangladesh in the name of Sorbohara Andolon.True Maulana Bhasani was a secular political leader but his National Awami Party was pro Chinese communist, and Comred Moni Singh belonged to pro Mosco faction. And if one care to observe the relationship between these two factions in the history, it is absolutely very much possible that exchange of heated words between them had occured.Again we all are trying our best to discuss concerns about Bangladesh. Our patriotic cause cannot be stopped by false accusations of pro Pakistanism and other epithets. Regardless of country, religion, race, language, if one is found to be engaged in anti Bangladesh propaganda, we would invest all our strengh to protest it.I hope Mr Azad would wake up from the amnesia and join hands with the patriots, who consider Bangladesh as their first and the last priority.Musfique.PS: I hope to see Mr Azad's next writeup with more intelligent and fact based logics. (unlike the so called intellectuals of Bangladesh).
AbdurRahim Azad <Arahim.azad@gmail.com > wrote:
11518 .Slaves of Indira Re: Liberation War veterans of Indian Army.........Slaves of Indira
Mowlana Bhasani called Malaon to Comrade Moni Singh. Because M. Singh told that he will cut off Mowlana Bhasani's toungue due to criticizing India. The...False propaganda by Tabeder of Pakistan Md. Mostafa Kamal against Mowlana BhasaniDear AllThis is a false propaganda by neo-Goebbelist Md. Mostafa Kamal .Mowlana Bhasani was out and out a secular and non-communal person.He faught against all forms of communalismthroughout his life.He would have never uttered the word "Malaon" to undermineanyone.Mowlana Bhasani and Comrade Moni Singh might havediffered politically,but were long-time friends. MowlanaBhasanihas never resorted to "galagali" ..... he was apolitical leader and all his statements and utturings werepolitical ..... not name calling ....The existence of People's Republic of Bangladesh is areality and the defeated ummabaz suppoerters of Pakistan andtheir ideological descendents can not accept thisreality .... so they try to undermine our leaders whatsoeverway they can.Mr. Md Kamal, please substaintiate your comment that "Mowlana Bhasani called Malaon to Comrade Moni Singh"--- this is a total fabrication of truth, a blatant lie ....BTW, why Mushtaq or Gen. Zia didn't publish a white paper on"Indian soldiers who looted in many mills " as charged(!)by Major Jalil [later a leader of Jassod] ...was he just doing politics of India Bashing ......... Why don't you, Mr. Kamal, now provide a authentic listof those "many mills in BD looted by Indians".Dear all, do not forget, Tabeders of Pakistan, still exist in Bangladesh and try to undermine birth of Bangladesh at every opportunity they get...PS:Have you noticed that few Pakistanis, are very active invarious Bangladeshi Forums including Khabor, Notun Bangladesh etc. and trying indoctrinate us with the Pki ideology ...Are these isolated events or parts of master plan by ISI?Mr. Md. Mostafa Kamal seems to very buddy-buddy with theseISI operatives who frequent our forums.Bangladesh should beware of these infiltrators and Tabedersof Pakistan.A. Rahim AzadOn 3/29/08, Md. Mostafa Kamal <mmk3k@...> wrote:Re: [notun_bangladesh] Liberation War veterans of Indian Army.........Slaves of Indira Gandhi!
Mowlana Bhasani called Malaon to Comrade Moni Singh. Because M. Singh told that he will cut off Mowlana Bhasani's toungue due to criticizing India. The Tabeders of India have not the tollerance to accpet the truth. Sector Commander Major Jalil protest against Indian soldiers who looted in many mills in BD which established by the Pakistanis. So all the Tabeders are 100% liar liar liar.These Tabeders have no problem to hear Hasina The Chief Minister of Bangladesh. But we can proudly say that Khaleda Zia was the Prime Minister of Bangladesh. That's the all difference between BAL & BNP.Thank You All,Md. Mostafa Kamal.Arif Ahamed <ahamed.ahmed@...> wrote:This "Mowlana Bhasani said Pakistan did not do the damage which India did 24 days" is another new lie & propoganda of the Paki-RAZAKAR.All (95%) Paki-Razakar are number one liar
On 3/27/08, Md. Mostafa Kamal <mmk3k@...> wrote:Dear Mr. Joy,I again saying our freedom fighters have done the 90% job by paying their lives. But as you know most of the Indians are still not accepted the partition of 1947. I have full respect to our great freedom fighters. It was never easy to beat the well trained Pak Army. They were inspired by our country & its people. But India only thought its own favor & benefit. They are not friendly that is why I am saying we should not do DOHORROM MOHORROM or too much appreciations. As you know after 16/12/1971 the Indian army looted many of the industries & other sectors. Mowlana Bhasani said Pakistan did not do the damage which India did 24 days after 16th December. If Indian govt. was sincere enough that loot never be happened. Unfortunately some of the freedom fighters are the blind followers of India, which they never protest against India's miss-behaviour with us. That is why I do not like to give any thank to the Indian army but just a simple thank to give the finishing of war in 1971. Look at 1944-45 when US freed France, Belgium, The Netherlands but never treated badly as like as India. I hope you will understand. Mr. Joy please keep writing.Thank You All,Md. Mostafa Kamal.
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