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Tuesday, October 14, 2008

[vinnomot] Its not upto the ladies

Its not upto the ladies
It is not upto those armchair pundits, either. Not if people want to take control of their own destiny.
 
 
Our journalist establishment would like us to beleive that its upto Hasina or Khaleda - only if they learned lessons during last two years - only then we will have good governance in the short run.
 
We couldn't disagree more.
 
If these two ladies only have learned anything - then they will be part of our ongoing march towards development. It would be nice if they could make that adjustment. But if they are incapable of doing that - then - they will be left behind. History will be made with or without them.
 
 
One good question would be to ask whether there is a way to know whether they are learning anything or whether they have learned anything. Yes, there is a way.
 
These two ladies will learn only if the establishment in our local journalistic circle shows some indication that they understand this issue. If they can catch up with the wind, the ladies will too. If our talking heads are too stagnant to catch up with the changes in the peoples mind, specifically the changes in the young generation, they will be left behind - so will be the case for their queens!
 
There is off course another indication. The establishment that reside outside our land - the so-called donors or development partners. The two ladies and their cronies have so far lived and grew up with direct or indirect support of those foreign powers. Would those powers sense the change in the people and support them in a constructive way? If they do not, no body will be served. It is however unfortunate so read the tone of Mr. Milam's analysis (see below). 
 
Its not upto the ladies. It is not upto those armchair pundits, either.
It is upto the people who want to take control of their own destiny.
 
 
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analysis: It ain't over till it's over —William B Milam

It is a supreme irony that military interventions are dependent on their elected successors for their place in history. It seems to me that short interventions have a chance of avoiding the arrogance and corruption of spirit that inevitably sinks long ones

Pakistan has emerged from another long period of direct and indirect military rule to a very uncertain future. Its former other half, Bangladesh, is about to emerge from a short period of indirect military rule, also into an uncertain future. That is about the only similarity I can think of these days between two countries that used to be one.

In contrast to its previous military interludes, the Bangladeshi military this time chose what I have called the "Turkish Model" of military intervention, the pattern established by the Turkish army in three different coups. The Bangladesh army, averse to prolonged direct rule after its previous times in power, sought immediate help from civil society by appointing a technocratic civilian government to run day-to-day affairs and pledged to stay in power for two years only while it reformed politics and set things right for sustainable democracy.

In contrast, the Pakistan army chose to replicate its traditional model of intervention — root and branch reform over a long period. The results, we all know, were no different than before, and no better.

Does either the long or the short form of military intervention work? Some would contend that the root and branch form succeeded in Chile, but this is tenuous given the enormous human cost.

Almost always, it seems, militaries that intervene with some grand plan of reform become so intent on preserving their power and seeking legitimacy that they forget the agenda that they came to power to implement. The Turkish model is often thought to be more successful because it is short with a more limited agenda of reform, but if that is so, why did the Turkish military have to intervene so often; did it create its own self-fulfilling prophecy? Why did the Mauritanian military take over again after giving government back to civilians only a year earlier, or the Thai people again take to the streets against the present government? To have to repeat interventions time after time hardly seems a definition of success.

And now the latest South Asian attempt at a Turkish model intervention, in Bangladesh, appears to be petering out without having accomplished what it set out to do — reform Bangladeshi political culture so that military intervention would never again be necessary — that is stop the vicious circle that interventions themselves seem to create. Many of us who wish the country nothing but the best feel great disappointment that more has not been done by the interim government that took over in January 2007.

But 22 months later, it all appears to be for nought. The two main political parties, with deep vested interests in the status quo, appear to have gambled that the new interim government meant what is said, that it would remain in power for only two years and, in effect, called its bluff. The parties knew that they could outwait this government if it stuck to that pledge.

What they saw was a political vacuum in the middle of the body politic, which they would own (even with their leaders in jail) unless it was filled by someone else. There were no leaders of civil society, even though encouraged by the government, who stepped up to do so. The parties refused to jettison their leaders (and the leaders refused to be jettisoned), and they declined to democratise, in effect to give up their old way of life.

Concomitant with political party reform, the interim government set out to extirpate the corruption that had fuelled the poisonous political culture. This objective was overwhelmingly supported by the public and had been, perhaps, the primary motivation of a large segment of the army officer corps for intervention. The perception is that this has also been a failure because, except for a very few, most of those arrested are out of jail on bail and/or appeal. However, a number of those charged with corruption have been indicted, and a few have been convicted.

In other words, an understaffed and under-resourced anti-corruption commission, though facing a daunting forensic task of proving the corruption of hundreds in courts that have been filled for years with crony judges appointed by the two political leaders, has made a brave start. As in most of the reforms that the interim government began, the follow up by the next elected government will make or break the anti-corruption effort. One thing that might persuade the elected government to pursue this with some vigour is that it retains a large measure of public support.

In fact, defenders of the interim government's performance describe the anti-corruption effort as an example and a symbol that it has set in motion a number of reforms that can, if not strangled in their cradle by the elected government that is to follow, slowly change the mindset and modify the behaviour of political actors. The foundation has been laid, they say, that over time can change the poisonous political culture into a benign one, if it is nurtured and protected by the governments that follow, and especially the one to be elected in December of this year.

It is a supreme irony that military interventions are dependent on their elected successors for their place in history. It seems to me that short interventions have a chance of avoiding the arrogance and corruption of spirit that inevitably sinks long ones, but even they cannot succeed if they don't build for their elected successors the foundations of institutions that promote and reward democratic behaviour and punish those who transgress democratic norms.

Those who see the accomplishments of this short-term intervention as a glass half full point to its other achievements as starting blocks for the full-throated reform that is needed if Bangladesh is to come out of the spiral of poison politics, appalling governance, and vicious circles of military intervention.

A completely independent election commission has reregistered 80 million voters with photo ID cards. At least the coming election is almost certain to be fair, and retaining the independence of the commission in the next government will be a highly visible sign of its intentions. The interim government has passed a law that establishes a commission, which includes political party leaders and civil society to recommend high court judges; if this works, it will be a huge step to clean up over time the judiciary that is riddled with political cronies and re-establish the rule of law. An independent civil service commission has been established to oversee the use of the bureaucracy and prevent its misuse.

There are other proposals on the drawing boards or under discussion. Will those already in place, as well as those planned, work?

Only time will tell, and only Sheikh Hasina or Begum Zia will provide insight on whether these reforms should be taken seriously. The history of military interventions as well as the history of Bangladeshi political parties and their leaders does not lend much confidence. Yet it may be that the groundwork is there if they want to use it, and the attitude of the public and civil society will be a large determinant of that.

Certainly, whichever lady becomes the next prime minister will hear much from friendly governments and the rest of us about the virtue of necessary and still-fragile reform. For those of us who have despaired as this interim government seemed to give way to the parties and let the bad guys off after such a good start, whose every effort of the past few months seemed to be stalled or deflected to take account of reality, Yogi Berra's words may hold some hope.

"It ain't over till it's over," he said famously, and in the case of Bangladesh, it won't be over until we hear the tune one of these ladies will sing.

William B Milam is a senior policy scholar at the Woodrow Wilson Centre in Washington and a former US Ambassador to Pakistan and Bangladesh

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[vinnomot] Strange and conspiratory invention of one economist ' ..should not follow islamic rules..."

Dear all,
 in todays nayadiganta an article published named "orthoniti bider odvut abder.
The economist did research.The result is we should not follow  islamic rules..."
cplease go through the article and post your comments.
should not follow  islamic rules..."
 
So fer as  i know the researcher is a russian PHD but now getting noney from us based orgs

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[vinnomot] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Israel supporter continues attacks on Pro-India n female Barrister Tania Amir

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[vinnomot] Re: [Amra-Bangladesi] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Re: [WideMinds] HINDUS CR IMINALS ON THE RAMPAGE SUPPORTED BY THE STATE .... MUSLIMS ...WAKE UP ....

How much RAW currently spending to support  their Bangladeshi operatives ?

Who are their operatives in Bangladesh ?

National intelligent agency (NSI) needs to identify them .

 



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[vinnomot] Re: [Amra-Bangladesi] U.S. to Maliki: Sign SOFA or go!

Under foreign occupation, occupation force  has the upper hand. Maliki has no other option other than signing  the SOFA. Maliki is like another Theda Malikka, He is just saving his Chamra. He knows very well that it is his interest to keep the American Force in Iraq to protect his government. If SOFA is signed both Maliki government and the US government both will be benifitted.

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[vinnomot] Hindu Threat to Christians : Convert or Flee

Hindu Threat to Christians: Convert or Flee

By SOMINI SENGUPTA

Christians in eastern Orissa State in India say they are
being forced to abandon their faith in exchange for safety.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/world/asia/13india.html?th&emc=th

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[vinnomot] Brave New India (By Arundhati Roy)

Brave New India

October, 12 2008

By Arundhati Roy
http://arundhati-roy-web.blogspot.com/2008/10/brave-new-india-by-arundhati-roy.html


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[vinnomot] Re: [khabor.com] Corruption by our long lecturing, jihadi media against corruption

Hello noble laureate Dr.Yunus is it fact that in one hand you are endeavouring to drive out social-economical injustices from the society but on the other low paid employees are oppressed and discriminated ??????.

Whereas people  thousands thousands miles away from us have seen your work thoroughly and being satisfied awarded you as the king of "Peace".

Can we take this complain as the "Alor nichey Andhokar" or the general complain against the NGO's are levelled that they are expoliter,coercer and mocker in guise of dole giver as true.

Is this the way you wish us to dream to establish suppression free,oppression free,interest free(???) society ??????????? 
    

NO SIR, THIS NOT THE WAY RATHER  IT IS MAKING THE NENGTIS OF THE HAVE NOTS MORE SMALLER  THAN WHAT THEY HAD BEFORE YOUR (NGO'S) ARRIVAL.

SIR, WE ARE EAGERLY AWAITING TO HEAR SOMETHING FROM YOU ON THE ACCUSATIONS LEVELLED AGAINST YOUR NOBLE EARNED SHANGSTHA.

Faruque Alamgir
 


On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:42 PM, mahathir of bd <wouldbemahathirofbd@yahoo.com> wrote:

Being bribed by ad , Our media didn't publish the news of  torture and  deprivation of drivers by GP.
 
 And this media frequently give  people politicians lecture on everything .
 
 
Hundreds of drivers sue GP
Tue, Oct 14th, 2008 6:31 pm BdST
Rohan Ziad
bdnews24.com Correspondent

Dhaka, Oct 13 (bdnews24.com)—Hundreds of drivers used by Grameenphone officials have sued the mobile operator accusing the company of violating labour laws.

A senior GP spokesman, however, has shrugged off the allegations.

Out of 750 drivers, 454 have filed separate cases with the Labour Court, according to documents obtained bdnews24.com.

"GP drivers have to work for 10 hours a day," said Nur-e-Alam, one of the plaintiffs.

"And there is mandatory 2 hours of overtime everyday," he said.

According to Bangladesh's labour laws, working overtime cannot be mandatory.

The drivers allege they have not been issued with any appointment letters though they were interviewed by GP officials.

They said the vacancy announcements were posted on the notice board inside GP office premises.

"Even those who have been with GP since the beginning have no appointment letters," Alam told bdnews24.com.

"They are not our employees. They are third party employees," Syed Yamin Bakht, GP's Director of Information and CSR, told bdnews24.com.

So who employs these drivers?

The company, from which GP rents cars, says the drivers are not its employees.

An official of the car company, Smart Services Ltd, in a court hearing refused to take responsibility for the drivers.

On March 30 this year the drivers went on strike, demanding wages and benefits according to the Geneva Convention, international and national labour laws.

The event went unreported in the mainstream media, the drivers say.

They staged a demonstration in front of GP's Gulshan headquarters.

At the time, GP chief executive Anders Jensen promised them appointment letters, due salaries and benefits according to the labor laws.

The drivers say they waited nearly three months before resorting to legal action.

On June 22, as many as 454 drivers filed separate cases against GP in the First Labour Court of Dhaka charging the company with breaching labour laws.

The court ordered no suspension or transfer of the plaintiffs until the matter was resolved.

But, the drivers allege, the country's largest phone operator was not listening.

They say GP halted salaries and allowances of 14 of drivers following the lawsuit, disregarding the court order.

These 14 again went to court and filed a further 14 cases, following which the court summoned the CEO to appear.

On June 26, the drivers staged another round of demonstrations in front of the labour courts.

The same day, GP authorities filed a case against the demonstrating employees with Gulshan police, charging them with theft.

GP alleged the drivers stole about 700 'Dalas Keys', devices used to track vehicle movement.

"Each one of us is provided with a Dalas Key from GP as the cars will not move without the driver punching the key into a device attached to the vehicles," Kamrul Hasan Uzzal, another aggrieved driver, told bdnews24.com.

"We must always carry them as per instructions. How do they charge us with stealing them?" he said.

bdnews24.com/rhn/rah/1748hrs
http://www.bdnews24.com/details.php?id=65201&cid=2

অদক্ষতা, অযোগ্যতা আর তাবেদারীর মাধ্যমে দেশের হাজার হাজার কোটি টাকা ক্ষতি করার জন্য ওদের আর হেলপারদের বিরুদ্ধে মামলা ,আর ওরা গ্রেফতার হবে কবে?


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[vinnomot] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Re: [WideMinds] HINDUS CRIMINALS ON THE RAMPAGE SUPPORTED BY THE STATE .... MUSLIMS ...WAKE UP ....

Kamal Bhai

From my experience I have never found a BAL activists and their chamchas(concubines) talking against the bestial acts done by their father(s) Indi. They feel "Pulkit" when the bestial indi stages propaganda war against Bangladesh.
So, how can they call themselves as Bangladeshi rather they should be termed indians in guise of Bangladeshi.

from history it is clear the Hindu indi was never civilized since it never tolerated any other religion other than their "PAGAN"one. They systemetically annihilated the minorities and made them the Dalit to serve their all needs including the "Joibik".The birth place of Buddism has been driven out totally,shiks,jains,tribals were also the affected minorities in the hands of the SECULAR HINDUS SWAMI/FATHER/MENTOR OF : Sultana Kamal Chokroborty, fiiirdusi mojomder,sobina ,Kabir Chowdhury,Shahriar KUbir,mutia tohomon,mohooofooz anom,asa nooooooor,ko buri, hok sieyd somsul gong.

Ayubi bhai is correct that we cannot efford to keep these "whores/quislings" in the forefront. They must be tamed forever.The patriotic Bangladeshis should spit on the bloody face and kick in the back of these prostitutes serving hindustani interest in Holy Bangladesh.The blood of 3 million was not spilled for the rise of these criminals.

SO, BANGLADESHIS HUSHIAR SHABDHAN


Faruque Alamgir

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 5:09 AM, Md. Mostafa Kamal <mmk3k@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Faruque,
 
We will have to see more this sort of uncivilized & savage incidents in India. India is the world's biggest democratic country just only in papers. Real thing is India is the world's one of the most uncivilized & savage country in the world. Country like Ruanda is compitable with it. Please see the link bellow;
 
 
Unfortunately we can not take action against the Hindustani dalal CR Dutta when he speaks against the state relegion of Bangladesh. Kabir Chowdhury, Sultana Kamal Chokroborty, Shahriar Kabir etc Indian boot licker has made their part like impotent "HIJRA", which they never speak against the facist acts on the Minorities of India. Instead of doing that they always in search of faults of Bangladesh & its patriot people & destroy the peaceful image of us. But they are supported by BAL. So these culprits do work in favor of BAL & India but not for Bangladesh. We must beware of these Indian dogs.
 
Thank You All,
 
Md. Mostafa Kamal.


--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Faruque Alamgir <faruquealamgir@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Faruque Alamgir <faruquealamgir@gmail.com>
Subject: [notun_bangladesh] Re: [WideMinds] HINDUS CRIMINALS ON THE RAMPAGE SUPPORTED BY THE STATE .... MUSLIMS ...WAKE UP ....
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Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 6:04 PM


SHOE HOROR KUBIR/ROKUA SOLTONA CHOKOTTY/RUKIYA KUBIR/KUUBIR CHOU/FIRDUSI MOJUMDOR/MALOOKA BEGOOM/ASA NOOOOOOOOOR N OTHER PAA CHATA DALALS OF HINDUSTAN
LOOK U  QUISLINGS WHAT UR (SWAMIS/FATRHERS)BLOOD MONGER  HINDUS U WORSHIP AS SECULARS ARE DOING ??

DHIK DHIK DHIK N SHAME U BLOODY KIT PTONGO IMBECILES
THAT U R NOTHING BUT SEBA DASS N DASSI OF THE HINDUS.

WAKE UP ATLEAST ONCE IN YOUR BESTIAL LIFETIME N BE HUMAN TO PROTEST N

HELP STOP
SPILING BLOOD OF INNOCENTS MINOROTIES NOT ONLY OF HINDUSTAN  BUT ANYWHERE N EVERYWHERE
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Faruque Alamgir

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:27 PM, niyas abbas <niyasabbas@yahoo. co.uk> wrote:
Muslims  ....... Support them today or else the same fate will touch you tomorrow in the hands of un-believers //// defense is the best form of offence..... .
 
Six Muslims burnt alive in Adilabad
 
State home minister asked to CBI probe of the incident, all killed belong to the same family, including three children.
 
By Rafiuddin Rafique
 

Aurangabad October 12: Miscreants set a house of minority community on fire today at Watoli village, Adilabad, district of Andhra Pradesh and located at Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh border. There were only two houses of Minority in riot-hit Watoli village, about 10 km from Bhainsa town. Miscreants set the home of Mehboob Khan on fire. The victims of the incident who lost their lives identified as Mehboob Khan, Noman, Arsalan, Rizwana, Safiyyah Begum and two years innocent toddler Tuba Mahosh.

 

People who are living in another house of minority in the village are afraid of. It should be kept in mind that a youth of the burnt- house is in force. Mehboob Khan and his family were residing in the village since last 20 years. There is tense in neighboring of Adilabad. Bhainsa town that has a history of communal violence, miscreants triggered violence throwing Gulal at Panjah Shah mosque on Friday while the Juma prayer was being performed, resulting in the killing of 6 people. The curfew has been imposed in Bhainsa town and rapid action force is dispatched in the area. While Watoli village turned into police camp. General of police of Warangal JP Chand Rao has reached Watoli village. Police patrolling has been increased in the whole Adilabad and its vicinity. State home minister K Janna Reddy visited Watoli village today. Addressing to news reporters in a guest house at 5 pm he said that the incident of the Watoli village is deplorable. Police have been sent to the village and vigilant bandobast has been made in the area. Government will catch the culprits very soon. The culprit will not be spared no matter how much access they have. Government job would be given to a person of the riot-hit family with compensation. The intelligence officer SSP Yadav and minister of hardworking G Vinod were also present along with home minister. Muslim leaders of Andhra Pradesh including Hyderabad condemned the incident. The president of Majlise Ittehadul Muslimin  Asaduddin Uwais has reached Watoli village. While addressing to newspaper reporters he said that Andhra Pradesh government has failed to save the life and property of minority and miscreants have control. The funeral prayer of the killing people were performed at Darul Uloom Jamia Arabia of Bhainsa town and buried in Maulvi Qabristan (graveyard) at 7. 30 pm.

 





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