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Friday, July 25, 2008

[vinnomot] Bangladesh needs to prove her worth?

 

Bangladesh needs to prove her worth?

(part one)

 

 

Musfique Prodhan

 

Recently I had an opportunity to participate in an online radio debate, which is said to be shared with Indian nationals, writers and sometimes with some Indian authorities as well.

 

Since the subject included the Transit/Corridor issue with India, I felt to oblige to represent Bangladesh's point of view to the Indian audience. .

 

http://www.fosaac.tv/mediawatch.asp?vedio2=D000047

 

 

My personal experience in India and with Indians made it clear that the general Indian nationals though very cooperative and friendly towards visiting Bangladeshi nationals (specialy in West Bengal and South India) but they were heavily depended on the euporhea of 1971 era Bangladesh.

 

Things might have changed as a handsome number of Bangladeshs visit India each year. But the Indian medias rentless pursuit to be the sole representative of their central Govt's foreign policy, I afraid the image of a Bangladeshi citizen might not very pleasant among general Indians.

 

Specialy when the nepotism of pointing finger at Bangladesh to be behind all the alledged "terrorism". Other propagandas like alledged infiltration, illegal migration, shelterting separatists and minority oppression simply must have widen the gap between two nations.

 

The activities of Bangladeshi terrorists in West Bengal ( sheltered and sponsored by the State and Central Govt) also might have played a catalyst role to create mistrust among West Bengal citizens about Bangladeshis.

 

Unfortunately, our own responsibilities has been limited to publishing a protest note in the national newspapers against any such allegations. Such limited and unfruitfull gesture only have contributed to nourish the mistrust between the two nations..

 

The role of our own media, intellectuals, writers and politicians are not too bright either. Deprived of a sensible and practical patratiotic stand, they are divided into extreme pro and anti Indian groups.

 

If the non realistic inflametory comments of the anti Indian group is damaging, the pro Indians pursuit to legitimate the Indian propaganda is disasterous. So far this extreme swinging action have seriously failed to portray the attitude of majority of Bangladeshis.

 

The role of our foreign missions are equaly lathergic. As I recall my letter sent to the Foreign Ministry, the Embassy in Washington DC and Los Angeles Consulate, warning them about concequences of the article published in Los Angeles Times by one Selig Harrison. All the people associated with these organizations were so unmoved that, they didnot care let alone sending a letter of protest against such fabricated article.

 

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-harrison2-2008jul02,0,419761.story

 

 

That particular article have played the pivotal role for what have followed, (the US admistration is considering to conduct a survey on Bangladesh border) would be an ambitious overstatement.

 

The continuous accumulation of such small articles are primarily responsible for the current terrorphoebic US admistration to set their focus on Bangladesh. And most of those articles were originated, overtly or covertly in our neighboring country, and the source being the Indian admistration and its notorious espionage wing RAW.

 

Our own extreme chants or silence, both at internal and international level respectively have been so far contributed to reach the propaganda to a higher magnitude on both sides of the Atlantic. In todays lone superpower based world, any image that is disfavorable to her, could shatter any possibility of economic growth and prosperity of Bangladesh.

 

END OF PART 1


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[vinnomot] Bangladesh's ecomony under threat?

There have been a live debate between an scholar economist cum political activist and a successfull expatriot businesman, about the economical heading of Bangladesh. The discussion have been realy informative and deserve to be shared among all the Bangladesh. 

 

Please feel free to enjoy the videos. Thanking you all.

 

Part 1

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiC0cEwIpZs

 

Part 2

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zu1BGy8xEA

 

Part 3

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t4Z_h3DyLo

 

 

Part 4

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79NNngywyw

 

 

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[vinnomot] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Bangabandhu Parishad New Zealand br asked full release of Sheikh Hasina - daughter of Bangabandhu, M A Jalil, Mohiudd in Choudhury, Janakantha editor Atiqullah Masud, Mohiuddin Alamgir, Ob idul Quader, Mirza Azam, Roton & other

Friend

In a more ruthless way I would suggests straight "Capital Punishment" for the corrupt and anti Bangladeshi stalwarts. I may sound rude or even the "Shoe's" may say I am anti HR. No I am not as I beleive that by their wrong doing we are not only suffering economically but is about to become added Rajjya of the bestail neighbour.

The reason of my this statement is that the way the stupid "Dhiplomath Pinak the friends of  "Shoe's" is moving around the country stampeding the basic normal diplomatic rules and conspiring against us.

To save our nation we must declare  the stupid "Person non grata" and send him back to his father dilli.  Friends what do you think ????

Faruque Alamgir

 

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:06 PM, mohiuddin@netzero.com <mohiuddin@netzero.com> wrote:

All corrupt convicted criminals  irrespective of party affimiation should go to hell in this World and hereafter.No mercy to them at all.

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[vinnomot] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Re: Gen Moeen at Mysterious Harvard Seminar

Friends

This type of mystery is no good news. If the main stake holders of our destiny is involved with such anti-sate activities then where the general people will go.

Please remember RAM could occupy and defeat the Raban because he got one Bibhshan. But friends, in our case we have thousands  of Bibhishans in different forms ranging from ordinary political activist,students,  teacher,businessmen,bureaucrat and politicians scattered within and outside Bangladesh.

There is no reason to feel safe in future.We have top vigilant and be one and united to fight any evil against our national identity and sovereignty.

Faruque Alamgir

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:40 PM, abid bahar <abidbahar@yahoo.com> wrote:

Wednesday, October 24, 2007
Gen Moeen at Mysterious Harvard Seminar
General Moeen's Mysterious Harvard Seminar

When Bangladeshi news media reported that the Bangladesh's first four star general Gen. Moeen U. Ahmed would deliver a seminar at the prestigious Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government (KSG), we the Bangladeshi Diaspora were delighted. We were reported that the Harvard University invited our "strongman" to deliver a historic speech on crisis management of democracy that would be a model for nations to adopt. We echoed with General's emotions that it would bring prestige to Bangladesh military and would build up our much needed image abroad. It would be historic event as the Harvard's 1st woman President Drew Gilpin Faust in her inaugural speech on October 12, 2007 launched many special initiatives for Asia and we were pleased that our General would lead the President's Asian initiatives.

We were proud and happy at the news and therefore, we called the President's Office to thank her. Unfortunately her office appeared to have no knowledge of our General's scheduled talk. Being frustrated, we contacted other offices of The John F. Kennedy School of Government basically to get an invitation to listen to his historic speech. But to our dismay, we were told that the Bangladeshi general had no public forum or there was no scheduled talk at the university. We were further told that he might have been privately invited by a lecturer of the university for his class. The university administration had no knowledge of it.

Rumors spread quickly. Bangladeshi Diaspora of Boston reported that Professor Sumantra Bose of the Harvard University belonging to West Bengal had requested another well liked Bengali educationist, Dr. Gowher Rizvi, Director of the Harvard's Ash Center of Governance and Innovation to sponsor a public forum for the Bangladeshi General. Few months ago, he arranged a seminar for Professor Rehman Sobhan of Bangladesh. However, when we searched the Ash Center's program events, we did not find any public seminar with General Moeen Ahmed. Instead we find that there was a seminar on "Muslims in America" on October 17th. Our frustration prompted us to call the Center. They politely stated that no Bangladeshi general is their guest speaker at this time. We also inquired at The John F. Kennedy School of Government but of no avail. The mystery intensified.

We were simply stunned at it. Our hopes and expectations got a jolt. How a set program could be so illusive? Following our national leaders especially our Law Advisor Moinul Hossain we immediately thought that there must be a "conspiracy" to undermine Bangladesh and Islam. We speculated it could be The RAW of India might be behind it!! Others quipped that the Bangladesh Embassy officials belonging to BNP-AL might have foiled his scheduled talk at the KSG. To justify our hunch we concocted arguments. When General Moeen arrived in Boston he was neither been accompanied by the Bangladesh Ambassador, nor the PR, nor the Consul General. Secondly, we thought since former Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina's son Sajeeb Wazed Joy is a student at the Kennedy School, he might have foiled it. However, his classmates reported that they were very busy with Mid-term exams. Third, the AL and the BNP supporters might have arranged a massive protest owing to which the Harvard
University cancelled it. But fact of the matter is, there was no protest, no demonstrations. Interestingly, the local AL Vice President Abul Kalam Azad received General Moeen at the airport. More importantly, we learned that in the 300 plus years history of the Harvard University they never ever withdrew any invitation once it was issued even against all odds and protests. Does it mean that the General's much celebrated trip was a "hoax" or a total lie?

We don't know who tried to foil our General's program or malign our General. Recently, three stories became public about Gen. Moeen. First one pertaining to his receiving loans of Tk. 99 lakh from the Trust Bank that is recorded in the bank's audit statement submitted to the government, the Bangladesh Bank and the Security Exchange. Second, the re-appointment of his elder brother at the Trust Bank of which he is the ex-officio Chairperson and Director thus violating the government regulation that no two family members could be appointed as Directors of the same bank. Third, his brother-in-law grabbed properties of a few people in Maulvibazar by misusing his power. Are these true or manipulated? It is charged that Bangladesh officials that we trust often do manipulate things to meet the wishes of their boss, the rich and the
powerful.

As per reports, he was invited by a Harvard lecturer who is rumored to be appointed as a Consultant in Bangladesh. The said lecturer is an authority on election reform and US congressional issues. He also takes classes of freshmen lawmakers. It is reported that our General would attend one of his classes along with his students. Each teacher in American universities or colleges routinely invites guest speakers in his/her classes and Gen. Moeen might have got such an invitation. Who knows?

We also checked the KSG bulletin boards. The 2-days that our general would be around Harvard, the KSG will be hosting nearly 7 public seminars and none on issues relating to South Asia or Bangladesh. They had an event on Bangladesh on October 13, the Eid day--- a public lecture of Nobel Laureate Dr. Muhammad Yunus.

Apparently General Moeen did not arrange any meeting with any leader of Massachusetts or of the U. S. Other than Congressman Crowley of New York, he has no appointments either with any U. S. Senators or US Congressmen/women, or with senior State Department officials. Nor there is any especial meeting with the Pentagon or with senior US Army officers as per media reports. He is visiting the U. S. at a time when nine U.S. lawmakers have placed a bill to allow tax-free imports from developing countries including Bangladesh and his courtesy meetings with the US lawmakers could help passing of such bill. However, he refrained from such lobbying. Then question is; why he made such a long trip to US when his each minute is so precious and crucial?

He had a "secret public appearance" for nearly 50 minutes at a location in Holbrook a tiny town, away from Boston on October 21. The guests were instructed to maintain utmost secrecy of the event. The reason for such secrecy is reportedly due to their fear that if Bangladeshi Diaspora knows about the event, they would stage protest demonstrations as they did in Florida.

It was a private dinner party arranged by one Mr. Shaheen Khan, a convenience store owner and more importantly, Mr. Khan is a friend of General's younger brother that lives in Florida. Reportedly this was arranged to thank the General as Mr. Khan's uncle, Nurul Islam, a sacked Secretary to Begum Khaleda Zia has been reinstated. Other than family members, nearly 25/30 local people were invited at the dinner and everybody had to finish their eating before Gen. Moeen enters the venue at 9:15 PM. Private security was arranged by Mr. Khan. However, TV cameramen and selected journalists were invited at the event.

It is an irony that General Moeen, the man who started jihad against corruption and corrupt people was welcomed at the dinner party by none other than a businessman who made his fortunate through bankruptcy and defrauding creditors. He was a real estate developer in 1980s and he collected millions of dollars from thousands of people including many Bangladeshis with the promise to double/triple their investments. Unfortunately, once funds were collected, he
declared bankruptcy and his Ivy Inc. was closed down. For nearly 12 years, he stayed away from public eyes. However, in recent days, he emerged and is currently a leader of the Bangladesh Islamic Society of New England. General Moeen might not know that the man who welcomed him and solicited his help for investment in Bangladesh once defrauded his customers, his bank, and his one time well wishers. Local TV and print media covered it widely when even his lawyer was jailed for fraud.

It is rumored that General's mission to the U. S. is to meet Sheikh Hasina's family members. He visited Florida where his only son, his younger brother and also Hasina's daughter live. At Harvard, it is rumored that he wanted to meet Sajeeb Wazed Joy. It is rumored that instead of a private meeting Joy suggested an open meeting. The General, therefore, have reportedly invited all the four Bangladeshi students of The John F. Kennedy School of Government to have luncheon with him on October 23, the day of his departure to China. It is believed that after this meeting, he would decide as to how to deal with Sheikh Hasina, the leader of the AL party now under detention. It may be mentioned that as per media reports, Joy met Indian Foreign Minister during his trip to New York few weeks ago and that might prompted General Moeen to have a face-to-face dialogue with Joy. General Moeen while answering a question at the Holbrook private dinner jokingly stated that
there could be many changes in the next 14 months - a king can die, even a hoarse can fly (something impossible). Now who knows what is next.

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008
Could India and Bangladesh Be Friends?

Could India and Bangladesh Be Friends?
Anand Kumar
Source: Asia Sentinel
March 12, 2008

Visit by top Bangladesh general a sign of improving relations

Driven by concerns over northeast Indian separatists operating from Bangladeshi border areas and a flood of economic migrants to India, Bangladesh's Army Chief of Staff Gen. Moeen U Ahmed recently spent a week in India to deal with a wide range of issues in arguably the closest example of cooperation between the two countries since Bangladesh's independence in 1971.

Arriving home on March 2 after a week in India, Moeen said progress was so good that rail service would soon begin between Dhaka and Kolkata. "It will be good for all if the train service between India and Bangladesh commences," Moeen told reporters, according to Bangladeshi newspapers. "I hope the train service will start as soon as possible after settling the issue of security of the two countries."

The train service is just the most visible result of the talks. Moeen held extensive discussions with Indian army chief Gen. Deepak Kapoor on ways to further cooperation between the two armed forces in rare high-level military talks. As Bangladesh has emerged as a center for terrorist organizations, many with an anti-India agenda, India hopes the visit will lead to a mechanism for information sharing.

India has been cautious in approaching Bangladesh in the wake of a January 2007 coup that ended years of squabbling between the country's two senior politicians, Begum Khaleda Zia, the last elected prime minister who headed the Bangladesh National Party, and Sheikh Hasina Wazed, who headed the Awami League. Their bitter electoral rivalry ended in chaos, spurring the coup. Both women, and scores of their supporters, remain under arrest on corruption charges. The existing caretaker government is headed by Fakhruddin Ahmad, a former World Bank official and Central Bank governor.

It is clear, however, that the army under Moeen is the spine that stiffens the caretaker government. India has chosen to do business with him as an improvement over its troublesome relationship with earlier governments.

What surprised political observers were the top Indian leaders Moeen met. The list included Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, President Pratibha Patil, Defence Minister AK Antony, External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee and National Security Adviser M K Narayanan. India is keen to improve long-term ties in order to secure transit rights for its goods through Bangladesh to the poverty-stricken northeastern Assam region, where India is almost bisected by Bangladesh. India also hopes to gain access to the Chittagong port at the mouth of the Ganges River and a commitment on transit of natural gas from Burma and possibly, the northeastern states.

For the immediate future, India expects a commitment from the general to clamp down on anti-India militants using Bangladesh as a safe haven. India is also concerned about illegal immigration. In return, India has shown its willingness to put Pranab Mukherjee's November promise into effect to make a one-time exception and export a half million tons of rice to Bangladesh, after shortages that led to price increases and general dissatisfaction after natural disasters last year.

Moeen also met Minister of State for Commerce Jairam Ramesh and discussed various possibilities to improve trade and commerce, including the duty-free export of eight million pieces of readymade garments from Bangladesh. In the past, New Delhi has spoken of the possibility of reducing Bangladesh's adverse balance of trade with India by encouraging Indian investment.

Moeen and the caretaker government have taken a relatively friendly approach towards India since assuming power. In return, India has a positive take on the general. He is the first army officer commissioned after the 1971 split with Pakistan to be army chief, and he has solid relationships within the service. His time as Bangladesh's defence attaché to Pakistan also gives him more insight into the geopolitics of South Asia than some of his peers. among the Indian Army brass, there is a sense that Moeen is willing to crack down on the fundamentalists in his country.

Moeen earned a high domestic profile following the January 2007 coup, earning approval from a wide cross section of the country, with the exception of the diehard supporters of Khaleda and Hasina, whose acrimonious rivalry had stunted the economy, allowed Islamist groups to flourish and engendered corruption so thoroughgoing that Transparency International rated Bangladesh the most corrupt country in the world from 2001 to 2004. Despite the end of democracy, there was at least initial support from the population after the coup and subsequent corruption arrests.

Indo-Bangladesh relations have generally depended on the party in power in both countries. The worst depths of the bilateral relationship were during the period of the Bangladesh Nationalist Party in the 2001-2006 coalition headed by Khaleda, a time which the coalition was deaf both to Indian security concerns and economic proposals.

The caretaker government seems relatively friendly towards India. Though opinions differ in India about action taken against Islamist groups like Jamaat-ul-Muslim Bangladesh (JMB) there is a belief that that the government in Bangladesh is seeking to keep Islamists in line and out of India's hair.

India has indicated it favors a stable and friendly Bangladesh that returns to democracy. Indian President Pratibha Patil called for early elections during the joint sitting of India's Parliament, and Moeen also appears willing to follow a roadmap announced earlier for restoration of democracy. Analysts in India believe one of the objectives of his visit was to get the Indian political establishment to advise Hasina and Khaleda to stay out of national elections

The caretaker regime wants India's help to get the two political leaders bow out gracefully. Strong-arm tactics to frighten them off with corruption and murder cases have so far not been successful. Reports have also indicated that Moeen requested Indian authorities not to insist on the release of the two women before elections. India has not responded to the request.

Moeen's push for stronger bilateral relations seems to be working. India assisted in rehabilitation and reconstruction after Cyclone Sidr roared ashore in September 2007, killing 3,500 Bangladeshis. Increasing trade between the two nations has also boosted confidence that has been sorely tested for decades, especially after the assassination of the country's founding father, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, a determined secularist, in 1975. Successive governments, whether elected or authoritarian, courted the Islamist fringe, giving India cause for worry.
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Labels: Army, Democracy, General Moeen, Millitary Government
Thursday, March 13, 2008
Gen. Moeen as the man Delhi can trust
Media treats Gen. Moeen as the man Delhi can trust
M. Shahidul Islam
Source: Holiday
March 7, 2008

The army chief's recent visit to India has drawn mythological anecdotes of varied natures. The timing and the texture of the visit aside, this was the first time an incumbent Bangladesh army chief was accorded a very unusually high-profile reception by the Indian government.

Marked by glittering galas and grandiose receptions, General Moeen U Ahmed was afforded closed-door interactions with External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee, Defence Minister A.K. Antony and the West Bengal chief minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee, besides the chiefs of the three services of India. Such an opportunity is usually preserved for a senior cabinet minister.

Interestingly, the visit further highlighted how the digit 'six' has become a magic number in the life of the army chief. The duration of the visit was six days long; he was gifted with six horses, and; he met six important personalities and discussed six important bilateral matters with the Indian authorities. The four-star General is also slated to be retired on the sixth day of the sixth month of this year; and he still has at least six more important things to accomplish before giving up a career that he'd successfully traversed for 33 years (3 plus 3 also equal six) to attain the pinnacle.

Despite the Indian High Commissioner Pinak Ranjan Chakrabarty's earlier comment to the media that the visit of "Bangladesh army chief was military-to-military", the itinerary of the visit belied that remark.

During the visit, the army chief has dealt with economic relations and made a fresh appeal to India to expedite the export of rice to Bangladesh and to liberalise bilateral trade. The political agenda included discussion on a plan of action for early return to democracy. The other major topic covered during the visit included bilateral security matters, joint collaboration in war on terror, prisoner extradition treaty, and Dhaka-Kolkata railway link.

The visit got catapulted into an august trajectory due partly to another reason: The President of India had greeted the arrival of Bangladesh army chief with a potent but veiled political message. No sooner the army chief landed in Delhi, President Pratibha Patil said in an address to a joint sitting of Parliament on February 25 that Bangladeshis "would be able to exercise their will through free and fair election for restoration of full democracy and liberalism in their country."

This particular signal was translated by observers as the army chief calling shots in Dhaka for all major decisions and Indian leaders and the media had reasons to treat him as the master of Bangladesh's political affairs, something the General has persistently denied. In more than one conversation with this writer, Gen. Moeen insisted he and the military were only aiding the caretaker government and he personally harbours no political intent.

However, despite all the bright side of the visit, some unwarranted display of power play by the Indian government and the media has truncated the glitters of the displayed symbolism to a great extent. At least six innocent Bangladeshis were killed by BSF in the wake of the army chief's India visit and major Indian media outlets carried an assortment of speculation-ridden stories that did not bode well with what the General's future plan is all about, at least whatever we all know. That aside, most of the Indian media also chose to present the General as the person India can trust, knowing well that a blind-pro Indianism is an anathema to the people of Bangladesh.

Reliable sources say the visit took place on the heels of an assurance from the government of Bangladesh that the army chief will get one year extension to enable him to complete a political mission which he has so enthusiastically undertaken since 1/11 to fine-tune certain fundamental pitfalls of our national polity. That is what has made him more precious to the Indian authorities who think General Moeen will roll past the electoral turmoil awaiting the nation.

Another observable factor was that astute Indian observers not paying much heed to the army chief's repeated assertion of not aiming for a political office, many of who believe the military is in power in Bangladesh.

This fabled perception was elucidated with convincing details in the Statesman newspaper of Kolkata that wrote in its post-editorial of February 29, "Having been a party, along with the USA, Britain and the EU, to giving consent to General Ahmed's takeover of power on 11 January last year so as to stall the "farcical" parliamentary poll that was scheduled for 22 January, India is now keen to know from the General how soon he plans to hold a free and fair poll and hand power back to a democratically elected government. And what plans and schedules he may have drawn up for holding such a poll, which was one of the key promises he had made when taking over. This promise was prompted by the fact that Bangladesh would have witnessed violence and chaos on an unprecedented scale. Major Western donors as well as India concurred with this view as they knew that the country's outgoing Prime Minister Khaleda Zia and her pro-Islamist four-party alliance, before
laying down office, had made elaborate arrangement to rig the poll. In fact the caretaker government, which was to oversee the exercise, had also been usurped by her with this end in view."

The Statesman's post-editorial was penned by none other than the paper's editor, Manash Ghosh, who, however, did not fail to make an insightful observation while dealing with the nuances of the prevailing political situation in Bangladesh.

Ghosh observed, "The General also realises that Khaleda Zia, who made him Army Chief, superseding four other generals, will never forgive him for his "betrayal" of putting her behind bars on "frivolous corruption charges". Khaleda's party may go for retribution. Sheikh Hasina and her party's reaction will be much the same, because he also put her behind bars on "frivolous corruption charges".

The High Court having struck down her detention as illegal has not made things any easier for the General. He is convinced that if the Hasina-led alliance wins the poll, it will wreak vengeance on him and the military. Therefore the need for him to have his own political party and secure a two-thirds majority in the poll."

In an oblique reference to the need for Indian support and the disguised political inclination of the military, at least in the author's view, Ghosh wrote, "One can well gauge the popular mood in a country where rice prices, predominantly, determine who the populace want pulling the strings in Dhaka. Perhaps this has prompted General Ahmed's government into starting a dialogue with political parties. Knowing the mind of Sheikh Hasina's alliance, it has begun to make the right noises, like calling Sheikh Mujib "father of the nation" and hinting at the process of trying war criminals of the 1971 liberation war."

The geopolitical twist of the visit came from the Indo American News Service (IANS), which has a fondness in propagating the virtues of the ongoing US-led war on terror. The IANS reported, "With a gift of six horses worth a little over $850,000), New Delhi is attempting to build bridges with Bangladesh's army chief in an attempt to persuade the eastern neighbour to cease support to anti-India insurgent groups operating from that country. The agency quoted an anonymous official for having said, "It's an attempt to build bridges, to move forward in persuading Bangladesh to stop supporting anti-India insurgent groups that are operating from its soil."

The report further said, "Even more worrisome than the anti-India groups are the operations of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and the Harkat-ul-Jehad-al-Islami (HuJI) extremist group. India blames the HuJI that was established in 1992, reportedly with assistance from Osama bin Laden's International Islamic Front, for two sets of blasts in Hyderabad last year." The report quoted the same anonymous official as saying, "The activities of the ISI and the HuJI will figure in the discussions with General Ahmed."

While we are not sure how much priority such issues were accorded during the army chief's visit, sources maintain the visit was a routine one and did not deal with pending political and economic agenda which the government is expected to conduct. It, nonetheless, cemented the ties of fraternity between the two close neighbours. "The army chief has earned respect at home and abroad by standing firm on cracking down corruption. That is what has prompted the Indian authorities to honour him in a special manner," said one of the sources.

Such a rationale does not seem to pacify a crowd of cynics who think the army chief's series of visits to USA, China and then to India was a calculated move to elicit consent from major powers in order to prepare himself for a political mission that might be necessitated if the forthcoming election does not yield a government of the military's liking, or the election efforts get jeopardised by unwarranted political turmoil of any breed. They reinforce this argument with examples of recent talks on forming a national government.

Others say the General, who spent his childhood studying in Pakistan -- and has had a stint as a defence adviser (DA) to the Bangladesh High Commission in Islamabad -- was either misunderstood, or underestimated, by the India authorities who imperfectly thought him to be pliant to the myriad of wishes presented before him for considerations.

"If the General had promised something, such promises must be materialised through the usual diplomatic channels with input from an elected government," commented an expert on Bangladesh-India relations.

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Subject: Indian Army chief to visit Bangladesh July 28-30

Thailand NewsIndian Army chief to visit Bangladesh July 28-30
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/indian-army-chief-to-visit-bangladesh-july-28-30_10075572.htmlJuly 24th, 2008 - 9:07 pm ICT by IANS -  Email This Post

New Delhi, July 24 (IANS) The decision by India and Bangladesh to intensify cooperation in combating terrorism will receive a boost when Indian Army chief Gen. Deepak Kapoor visits the eastern neighbour July 28-30, an official said Thursday. Underlining India's commitment to strengthening ties with Bangladesh, Kapoor will be visiting Dhaka with Home Secretary Madhukar Gupta.
New Delhi hopes that the new dispensation in Dhaka would act on its complaints of cadres of the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) and other militants using Bangladesh as a staging post for raids into India's northeastern region.
Even more worrisome than the anti-India groups are the operations of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and the Harkat-ul-Jehad-al-Islami (HuJI) extremist group. India has blamed the HuJI, established in 1992 reportedly with assistance from Osama bin Laden's International Islamic Front, for two sets of blasts in Hyderabad last year.
While the official was tight lipped on the agenda for Kapoor's visit, analysts said this would include improving bilateral ties and greater military-military interactions between the Indian and Bangladeshi armed forces.
"This will essentially be a return visit for that of the Bangladesh Army chief (General Moeen U. Ahmed in February), the official added.
That visit, the first by a Bangladesh Army chief of India was considered significant as the political changes and the promulgation of an emergency in the country in January 2007 was strongly backed by the armed forces.
India has been steadily reaching out to Bangladesh and during Ahmed's visit, had gifted him six horses valued at a little over Rs.35 million ($850,000) as a token of goodwill and friendship.
Kapoor had handed over the reigns of the two stallions and four mares to Ahmed.
Foreign Secretary Shivshankar Menon held talks with his Bangladeshi counterpart Touhid Hossain July 17 on a wide range of bilateral, regional and global issues here in a "friendly atmosphere" aimed at building "trust and understanding" between the two countries.
Speaking to reporters after the two sides ended their annual foreign office consultations, Menon said: "We are convinced that our security is interlinked and that terrorism will have to be tackled resolutely."
"We discussed the issue of terrorism and how we both need to face it together," he said at a joint press briefing with Hossain when asked whether the issue of alleged complicity of Harkat-ul-Jihad-al Islami (HUJI), a militant outfit which is suspected to operate from Bangladesh, was involved in recent terror attacks in India.


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[vinnomot] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Re: [khabor.com] An ego maniac declars his victory !

Mr. Aslam

I wonder how  then AL highlighted  Suhrawardy a non-Bengali and who did not have 25% control over Bangla language plus with no respect to modern democracy as "Gonotontrer Manosh Putra". You are right that he was not the only quisling favouring Pakis there were many many others in the form of politicians e.g.Muslim League/ poets/ journalist/bureaucrats etc etc.These quislings paved the way for the pakis to coerce and suck the then E.Pakistan and made it dry.

Under
Suhrawardy's leadership Awami League agitated but in guise conspired against the interest of then EP. The heroic people under the leadership of then students of Universities made serious demonstration which led the ruling class to give concession in politico-econo arena and those concessions helped rise of some leaders to the peak and later became our national heroes. But the character of treachery did not change and for which we are still suffering as an ill equipped nation to go forward and hang over till date for the right system of governance. In fact there was no other political party who could get the make up of the only opposition party for the interest of  the EP.

The tragedy is that quisling were there and still are there and they are the main impediments in getting the right system to steer our nation since their allegiance was neither E.P nor Bangladesh. For last 37 years we are criticizing and counter criticizing over the Mukti Judhdha and divide the nation on stupid phenomenon of "Chetona". Interestingly the flag of Chetona is carried by people who were mostly collaborators of then regime and did not have an iota of contribution to the Mukti Judhdha.

Mukti Judhdha was fought by the ordinary people, students and peasant  and fought the WAR without and any direction from any party or individual. The fought spontaneously and without and  without any lust to become "Kotipoti" rather they dreamt to see their beloved "LAL  SABUJ  PATAKA' to fly high in the open sky with right dignity. After the defeat of the bestial Pakis and the Janwar Razakars they real freedom fighters were sidelined  by the bourgeois politicians of BAL who snatched their pride  of shedding blood for the nation.This is begining of the decaying era of the
nation at the budding stage.

To me our politics and politician instead of contributing to the augment of country's development rather pushed it  backward causing the nation to suffer and suffer. The politicians successfully administer the opium in the vein of it's die-hard supporters and force them dance ,tilt,loot, arson,destroy property and hold  the economy at ransom.

So, in my opinion of calling Bangladesh a "Failed State" by the detractors they should scold the incompetent  politicians who are responsible for all pain of the nation not Bangladesh. But fortunately things are changing that there is drastic change in the awareness of the people about the wrong doing of the politicians. This is a very positive sign and will have a good effect in the upcoming election(?).

Faruque Alamgir

PS: I love to tell spade a spade no matters who things what.This the duty of the conscious people to let the general public know about the real face our "Jonogon Premiks" politicians. No matter whether it is BAL/BNP/JP/JAMAT and the lezur chamcha small pimp political parties. May be because of your political allegiance/likings my writing is sour to you but I cannot help it. Please let every citizen fell free to express what s/he feels right. One may disagree but that should not be mooted as Engr. Shafiq a die hard BAL activist does in an obnoxious/obscene way.
Faruque Alamgir


On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:

 
 
Mr. Faruque Alamgir
 
I agree with your contention that Suhrawardy had betrayed the
cause of the autonomy of people he represented [currently Bangladesh].
However he was not an exception: As I read in history, starting from Khajwa
Nazimuddin to Mohammad Ali Bogura sold the interest of the people of east
to the ruling elites of Pakistan. In those days Khodoker Mustaq and
one Jahiruddin was the leading cronies of Suhrawardy.
 
However, I could not find which constituency in the east Suhrawardy
got elected & and actually represented whom. I don't think
he had any home base in Bangladesh ......[If you have any authetentic info
on this, please enlighten us. I also heard that Suhrawardy was not fluent
in Bangla.... Is that true or just a rumor?]
 
It must be remembered here that Awami League was never a Monolithic ideology
based political party. After the death of Suhrawardy in 1963.there was two distinct
trend in Awami League: One circled around NDF [National Democratic Front - a leader
only parlor based organization of the big name politicians] and the other
circled around Sheikh Mujibur Rahman ..... Sheikh Mujibur Rahman's Awami
League was qualitatively different from Suhrawardy's party. That was the
reason Sheikh Mujibur Rahman was not acceptable to the ruling Junta of Pakistan.
Just yesterday [July 23, 2008] one Mister Sajjad Anwar commented in Notun Bang;adesh
forum that:
"These thugs were the cause of the separation of East Pakistan as well. They were
afraid that Mujib-ur-Rehmnan will bring about land reforms in Pakistan, like in
India."
[Ref:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notun_bangladesh/message/15405 ]
 
If you think that the ordinary masses and rural people are Bangladesh, then no
"pro Bangladeshi Party"  exist...... Anyone who goes to power install their own
"get rich quick" scams, ignoring the real interest of the masses. All the jargons of
patriotism, national interest and development that we hear are political ploys and
slogan mongering,,,,
 
However, I am sure that the things will change. I am an optimist about a
bright future fot the mass people of Bangladesh: THE DAY SHALL DAWN ......
 
Syed Aslam
 
 Hi there,
:You sounds like a broken record when you talk about BAL
 Why do you talk about things repetively but not clearly?
: THANKS!
Ayed Aslam
 
 
On 7/24/08, Faruque Alamgir <faruquealamgir@gmail.com> wrote:

Can anybody stop this most prudent and "Shob junta" professor?? Man listen, Suhrawardi is a name who championed in treachery to the cause of people of then East Pakistan. He was sent to become PM on the condition that E. pakis demand of majority share on the basis of population for which vowed to shed his blood but sitting in the Masnad (Takth) he did the opposite by  putting final nail by agreeing to parity.

It is crystal clear that BAL was never and is not and will not be pro Bangladeshi Party since it serves their fathers(mentors) interest. Continuous silence against the killing of Bangladeshis by their father(BSF) Indi is the real proof of betrayal character of BAL.

Plus we did not hear anything from the sanes (who complained about indecency by gang of four) about the continuous posting in obscene language by one BAL activist Eng.Shafiq (Arif & sometime in guise of women's name). I personally requested to give their comment but but the sane people abstained since it is the creation of their party's activists. Is it correct then that  "chorey chorey mastuto bhai !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Faruque Alamgir

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:

 
Mr. Salahuddin Ayubi
 
Finally, you have proved yourself to be an ego maniac who is always
declares himself to be a winner [You are a self-proclaimed winner.]
 
You and your buddies  have created an atomosphere of intimidation. slander
and abusive name calling, where meaningful debate has become almost
impossible ..... 
 
 
We all know that Mujib was not a revolutionary leader like Mao Ts Tung
or Che Gueaverra but a popular mass leader of a political party that won 1970
election.
 
There is a inherent connection between the need of the people and the leader
of the masses in any historical epoch. Mujib's historical 7th march speech
summerizes his trust on the people of Bangladesh that achieved their independence
through a lagacy of Blood:
 
 
Mujib's dialog with Yahia [not gossips as you slanderously call]  and Mujib's arrest
on the night of March 25th 1971 gave an extra degree of legitimacy to the cause of
Bangladesh's fight for independence in the international level. Mujib was in Pakistani
jail for nine months with Hangman's rope above his head. Mujib didn't surrender or
compromise even under the threat of death ..... that was the strength of Mujib's character.
 
Husayn Sahid Suhrawardi was a mentor of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman.
Sahid Suhrawardi was acceptable to Paki Junta to some degree but Mujib was
not. ...... the rest is history .... but the history must be understood in the proper
context ... all attempts distort and falsify our history will be resisted by the
people of Bangladesh.
 
 You are right, "In September 1971  US mission in Calcutta established
contact with Mushtaq  to promote a negotiated settlement with Pakistan."
 
Your attempts to glorify your mentor Khandoker Mustaq is out and out
obnoxious. Mustaq's conspiracy to sabtage Bangladesh's fight for statehood
and independence has failed [Mustaq was conspiring for a compromise on
a formula to create a confederation with Pakistan  with the help of Nixon Admn]
 
You have declared your narrow partisan political agenda: You want to prove your
falsified version of history condoning crimes of Jamaate Islami the traitors &
collaborators of Pakistan army and the Genocide of 1971 along  with its gestapos
[albodors etc] ....
 
All your attempts to falsify history is bound to fail .....You and your cohorts can
fool all Bangladeshis for some times, few Bangladeshis for all times ...... but not
all Bangladeshis for all times....... Bangladeshis  will overcome the attempts to
falsify the true histrory of this nation and march farward: for the people of
Bangladesh: THE DAY SHALL DAWN ......
 
The sequence of events must be understood & analyzed in the proper historical
context. One thing in history leads to next  ....... histrory does not follow any script
written in the palaces and barracks...... Masses are the makers of history and exactly
that's what happened during the emergence of  People's Republic of Bangladesh
 
 Man proposes but Almighty Allah disposes..... as always .....
 
 
Syed Aslam
 
 
 
 

On 7/23/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo.com> wrote:

Aslam Sahib,

                   Now that you have no answer to my queries  you are trying to divert the issues and open new ground to beat me . Mr. Aslam you have already lost the battle. whatever tctics you now adopt will not help you to gain the lost ground. keep trying,. beallady phool.. 

                    Ayubi

 
On 7/23/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mr. Alamgir,

                I consider BAL as the enemy fo the people of this country and i am trying to expose them.. Inspite of all their bragging about their contribution to the liberation war I want to prove that they had exploited all to do with the liberation war and take the wind out of their propaganda sail. Once we are able to do that then BAL will be a lame duck.

                   Salahuddin Ayubi


 

--- On Tue, 7/22/08, Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:

How Do you feel?

PS: A quotation : "AMRA KORLE HOI  PAP AR BALERA KARLE
HOI LEELA KHELA. TAI NA , ALMGIR BHAI?-  AYUBI
 
Mr. Salahuddin Ayubi -Tit for tat or old-time habit:
[Few examples - Tip of the iceberg]Tit for tat or old-time habit:[Few examples - Tip of the iceberg]
                                      Belaady Phool (?????)
                                      uncouth
                                      uncultured
                                      imbeciles 
                                      Rip van Ahammak 
                                      Kajer Mali
                                      Rice Uddin
                                      Ass lame
                                      Langra ghora
 
[Do you to see more ??????]
 
 
Still continuing with your oblique attacks:
 
(1)   bouts of hallucination.
(2)   one who suffers from schizoprenia.
(3)   bull shitting   .....
 
This list goes on ... will published by Mass Communication Department [Journalism Dept], DU
pretty soon ...
 
Also Read:
&
Syed Aslam
 
PS:
 
How do you feel??? "Every action has equal and opposite reaction" - You  only prove your culture,
and prove actually who you are, through your posts .....  Thanks .....
 
On 7/22/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo. com> wrote:
 

Mr. Aslam,

              You had no busdsiness to twist my name. What i did is just tit for tat. Now it hurts you. Dont you think that it hurt me whe I found my name twisted by you to mskr my nsmr sppear like that of the Army chief. Was it not done with malafide intention. When you twisted my nme you should have seen it foming as in law of physics there is something called "Every action has equal and opposite reaction"

            If you repeat this I wil be compeled to come up with something more innovative.

                   Salahuddin Ayubi

 

On 7/22/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo. com> wrote:

Mr. Aslam,

               Please stop bull shitting and come to the point and answer the questionws that I placed before you.

           Salahuddin ayubi

On 7/21/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo. com> wrote:

You should not be complaining as you started the mud slinging by distorting my name, you had no business to do that. now that i have called you by your proper name it hurts you. Take this sportingly as tit for tat. Every action has equal and oppomite reaction is a law of physics. You should have seen it coming when you twisted my nake.

          You have not replied to the queries that I have made and summerily come to the conclusion that i have admitted and agreed wwith you. 

           I am sorry that I give up as I can not win an argument with a peron who has bouts of hallucination.

            You either answer to the six points mentioned in my post or just shut up. I am not prepared to go into any arguement with some one who suffers from schizoprenia.

                     Salahuddin Ayubi




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