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Monday, July 7, 2008

[vinnomot] This page is maintained by Dr. Syed Manzurul Islam

Dear Bangladeshi,

 

 Visit the link below to see how the page is maintained by the long lecturing susil professor publishing article in the newspaper of controverisial editor Mr. Moti

 

 

 

http://www.univdhaka.edu/department/facultyDetail.php?bodyid=ENG&memberid=FMENG74029

 

 Adn see what long lecture he is giving

 


http://www.prothom-alo.com/archive/news_details_mcat.php?dt=2008-07-07&issue_id=976&cat_id=3&nid=MTA3MDQ0&mid=Mw==

 

 May i ask when we are getting rid of such(long lecturing ) professors?

 

আল্লাহ যাকে যখন ইচ্ছা ক্ষমতা দান করেন,মাইনাস টু ফরমুলায় তাই হাসেন
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[vinnomot] Subsidy neutral life-styles and subsidy neutral businesses

Subsidy neutral life-styles and subsidy neutral businesses

It's time the members of upper echelon of the soceity comes clean out of their guilty feeling. A private sector initiative could serve this purpose.

[ Desh vorti civil society organization, jader kaaj holo sara din ajaira pechal para. Most of the cases, probably, sitting on top of wealth that was created through someone else in their family (if not themselves), hopefully not through corruption. Jekhane desher ordek er beshi manush go to bed hungry, jekhane desher lakh lakh newborn spend their baby days in slums, shei deshe kivabe manush jon human rights er name chor chamar, mastan aar 'inefficient and corrupt' political leader der ke jail theke ber korte chai, we don't understand that. Nischoi amader chinta vabna te jhamela ase kisu, na hole eto manush eto kore bujhe, kintu amra bujhi na keno?

Barrister Rafiqul Haq er moto lok, je kina chora Ershad ke help koresilo, seta abar ekhon boro golai journalist bashai dekhe niye bole, shei barrister shab o human rights er defender ekhon. Ki ar kora. Boshe boshe dekhi.

Anyways, following is something that might make sense to some of our readers. We hope that some of you would come forward and take a concrete intiative similar to what is proposed here. Valo hoto jodi, Rokia Rahman or Shaheen Anam type er manush ei uddog nito. Since they get a good media coverage, that could help promote the cause quickly. But we would doubt if they would show the courage in doing something like these. Still, we mention these two names here, just in case, if they want to prove us wrong. Are you wondering why we picked up these two names? Then you should read a news item that is attached at the end of the article, it should become clear to you why we picked these two names. ]

We belong to such a country, like many other countries around the world, there are a huge number of people who are passing their days in unthinkable misery. As a private citizen or as a private business-person, we can't do much to solve the whole problem. We participate in the governance process whenever we are given a chance. And we hope that things will get better - soon.

But can we, those who are better off in this country, can we pass a day without the feeling of guilty for just being well off? Can we really pass a day without feeling sorry when our private cars or taxi or CNG stops at the trafic signal and see some unfortunate little girl or boy begging for money or trying sell some flowers? Don't be worried, because the fact that he or she is still alive, its a big win against many of the odds, since most likely this kid has grown up in a slum in Dhaka. Have you ever been to a bosti? If not, we would suggest that you go visit some bosti someday. Then, you will appreciate the level of luck that those boys or girls have been bestowed upon by The Almighty for just being alive so that they can beg or sell flower to you. That might reduce some of your guilty feeling, because most likely, if you are watching these little boys and girls from a private car, most likely you did not have so much good luck in your life. You were lucky at the birth in that you were not born where those little kids did. However, after the birth, in every step of the way, those little kids were luckier than you (probably) to be able to live until now so she or he can sell flowers to you. If you think that way, guilty feeling should indeed reduce a bit.

However, we did not start to write this article to reduce your guilty feeling, rather we wanted to increase your guilty feeling by highlighting the problem that we have within ourselves. Once that feeling is bumped up enough, it is our hope that you will be motivated to netralize your life-style from the state subsidy. It is also our hope that some NGO will help you with that by offering that service soon. Because at the end, it is our aim to make you guilt free as much as possible. We want to do that not out of goodwill to you (off course, we have goodwill for everyone), but we feel that a guilty feeling does not help a person to go far in life. So, if we can make you guilt free, hopefully, you will become an enlightened person (in the words of Abdullah Abu Sayeed sir, 'Alokito Manush') and you will reach such a stage in life that you might actually think about doing something so those poor kids can become unlucky like you!

Before going into the main topic, we want to talk about another thing - just to give you the right perspective. You must have heard about the word carbon-neutral. People and businesses in many developed countries are spending a lot of money to become carbon neutral. You know what they getting by doing that? They are clearing their conscience, they are trying to become guilt-free. What kind of guilt we are talking about here? Have you heard the recent hue and cry that started about climate change? Many people around you must be shouting that rich countries are causing global warming, causing problem for us. So, the rich countries should compensate us since we are being affected for them. Talks have started and this would be handled in some way (hopefully in a good way) - even though the process of these type of intergovernmental negotiation would be very complex. However, the people and businesses at the individual level is not sitting idle for their government. There are many organizations who are selling carbon credits to individuals and businesses and they are buying those credits to become carbon-neutral by themselves. People are not just sitting idle for the day when the government will settle the issue and let them free from guilt. Responsible people and responsible businesses do that.

With this background, we should first mention that in Bangladesh, even though their numbers will be few, there are people who needs to buy similar carbon credits if they want to be carbon neutral. However, our topic today is not being carbon neutral. It is about subsidy neutral.

When you buy a flower in the trafic light from those little kids, you probably don't need the flower, still you buy, because you want to feel good, you want to help the poor boy or the poor girl. Has it ever occured to you that the air-conditioner that is running in your car, the fuel that is being used to run the car and the air conditioner, some part of that fuel price is being paid by those poor kids? Are you surprised? Don't be. Most likely, those little kids have paid you more than you will be paying them in your whole life, even if you spend taka 10 everytime you buy something from them. Ironic isn't it? Not only that, most likely the computer that you are using to read this article, the electricity that you are using to power your computer, a portion of that electricity was also paid for by those poor kid!

How come - you will ask? Don't be surprised. Just like the world is a complex system and its now coping to find out a mechanism to equitably share the basic resources like carbon footprint, our national government is also a complex system, albeit an inefficient one, too, compared to many others in the developed countries. In many cases, the system cannot differentiate the poor and rich, although in many other case it does. Because of those inefficiencies, we, the rich get a lot of subsidies that we really do not deserve. More importantly, those subsidies, if they could be separated, could be used to buy books or medicine for some kids. Since the government isn't able to make the distinction yet, we are getting the money that we don't need through various subsidies. Don't you feel guilty for having been using such an unnecessary advantage? We are sure you do. But there is no need to wait for the day when government will be efficient enough so it won't make this kind of mistake anymore.

Hope to get some organization in near future that will provide you this service, to calculate how much money you owe to the society from unnecessary subsidy and you can become neutral by paying that back. Or you can calculate that for yourself if you want to do it now. Do not confuse it with zakat. If you pay zakat or some other donations to the poor, that calculation should "ideally" start after you become subsidy-neutral.

A similar thing should be done for the business firms. There is a recent talk about making CSR expenses tax free. We think, donations at the private level should be made tax free first and see how far NBR can check the abuse for fear which it is still not allowed. CSR spending by the businesses should not be made tax free now. If government wants to do that, to make CSR spending tax free, that count should start only after the businesses become subsidy neutral. It should be mandatory for businesses.

There is also another dimension. In many capital markets of the world, there are separate indexes that include only companies that fulfill certain kind of benchmark. For example, an investor who is looking for Sharia complaint investment, there is an index in NYSE that helps you do that. If you are looking for companies who are environmentally responsible (i.e. green), there are many services available to help with that.

In line with this, in Bangladesh, some civil society or NGO organiation should offer a service to identify the amount of money that different business houses are getting as government subsidy, they get it through different generalized subsidy mechanisms of the government (e.g. fuel subsidy, electricity subsidy, water subsidy, etc) even though the business might not need it. Once that information is public, the individual companies can try to become subsidy-neutral. Once they become subsidy-neutral, only the amounts above that should be treated as tax-deductible CSR expense, if government wants to go that route.

Any takers for this initiative, to offer services to the individuals and to the businesses, so that they can become subsidy-neutral if they want to?

If you thought some of the ideas are worth of your reading time, please forward it to others. If you have an ear to the columnists in regular traditional media, please forward it to them. If you have an ear to the journalists and news editors of the electronic media, discuss it with them. Hope they would look at the suggestions and give due diligence.

Thanks for your time,
Innovation Line

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Note: This is a freelance column, published mainly in different internet based forums. This column is open for contribution by the members of new generation, sometimes referred to as Gen 71. If you identify yourself as someone from that age-group and want to contribute to this column, please feel free to contact. Thanks to the group moderator for publishing the article as Creative Commons contents.

Dear readers, also, if you thought the article was important enough so it should come under attention of the head of the government please forward the message to them. Email address for the Chief Advisor: feeedback@pmo.gov.bd_ or at http://www.cao.gov.bd/feedback/comments.php .

The more of you forward it to them, the less will be the need to go back to street agitation. Use ICT to practice democracy.
Also send to your favourtie TV channel:
Channel i: http://www.channel-i-tv.com/contact.html
ATN Bangla:
mtplive@atnbangla.tv_
NTV:
info@ntvbd.com_
RTV:
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BTV:
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http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=36446

Move to channel CSR funds to grassroots development

A new initiative to pool CSR (corporate social responsibility) funds and channel them to fight poverty has been undertaken by Management and Resources Development Initiative (MRDI), says a press release.

"This is a unique idea that involves the corporate sector with the development work at the grassroots," said Shaheen Anam, executive director of Manusher Jonno Foundation, which is funding the project named 'Mainstreaming CSR to Address Poverty (MCAP)'.

The core idea of the project is to identify problems across the country that hold back community development at the grass root or local level, find solutions to those problems, and then motivate the corporate sector to channel their CSR funds into the actual act of solving the problems.

Under the project, journalists and issue experts will team up to identify problems of different communities and suggest possible interventions, which, in turn, will be presented to the corporate sector through lobby meetings and fund raising initiatives. Local people will implement the resulting projects, which will be financed by CSR funds of the corporate sector, at the gross root level with the help of local development organizations.

"CSR fund has always been a major financial instrument to fight poverty worldwide. However, this is yet to be the case in Bangladesh. With the MRDI's project implemented, we hope that the country's corporate culture will experience a positive change," Shaheen Anam said.

Moazzem Hossain, editor of The Financial Express, will act as the anchor of the project, while Rokia Afzal Rahman, former advisor and president of Bangladesh Federation of Women Entrepreneurs (BFWE), who will be the advisor to the project.

The project will roll for three years, the first year being the intervention, identification and fund raising phase. It will then enter into the phase of field level intervention and implementation.

Hasibur Rahman, Executive Director of MRDI, said although the initiative will cover the entire country, it would target the marginalized and extremely poor communities, in particular. It will also concentrate on the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) that pertain to health, education, environment and children's well being, he further said.

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[vinnomot] Stereotyping or thinking outside the box?

Stereotyping or thinking outside the box?
 
 
 
Mr. Mushfiq Prodhan
 
Are you stereotyping the majority of the writers/intellectuals as promoters of leftist ideology
( Marxist/Leninist)?
 
I believe, you meant Bangladesh, when you talked about the "majority of the writers/intellectuals
are biasly educated that, they are unable to think outside the box", not about your adopted homeland
USA. In todays' world Marxism has been  obsolete politically, and Leninism lost all it's viability.
 
No one, even the communists in Bangladesh speaks of Marxism any more .....The Stalinism was
rejected even earlier, probably by Khruschev, immediately after the death of Joseph Stalin almost sixty
years ago. I do not see any lagacy of Marxist-Leninist or even Stalinist thoughts among the liberal
writers/intellectuals of Bangladesh ..... rather it is other way around ...  among the ruling elites
[irrespective of any party] and uttra-opportunist of Bangladesh the stalinist methodology
in very much in vogue. Two examples are:
 
(1) "Selectively neutralizing" people under custody through staged "crosss-fire" heart- attack etc.
 
(2) Blaming & charging opponents for destroying the Bangladesh's image abroad for fair critism and
     dissents. [Stalin used to charge, even annihilate dissidents for destroying the image of the Motherland]
I think you attributed the term "leftist ideology (Marxist/Leninist)" to majority of the writers/intellectuals
who are either liberal or psuedo-liberals and who do not promote specific variety of nationalist  ideology.
I hear the hear the voice of the American neo-cons when you say "all of them posses leftist ideology
( Marxist/Leninist)".  Please substantiate your views in this regard [I hope you know what Marxism-Leninism
and Stalinism is]
 
BTW, two of the NoyaDigonto writers [ Mr. Sadek Khan & Mr. Farhad Mazhar] are, to my knowledge, former
Marxists. Are they included in your generalized list of  writers/intellectuals who "posses leftist ideology
( Marxist/Leninist)"?
 
Again, just two ago one of our fellow blogger advocated Maoist type guerrilla war and frequently uses terms
marxist terms like bourgeois etc ... what do you think of that ?
 
 
 
Syed Aslam
 
 
 
--- In notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com, On Sun Jul 6, 2008 2:13 pm Musfique Prodhan <chena_kew@...> wrote:
 
RE: [notun_bangladesh] Mr. S A Hannan - Repentence for the past mistakes and asking the victims for forgiveness is the only way to create a better world !

Dear Amin Bhai
it is extremely unfortunate that, the majority of the writers/intellectuals are so biasly educated that, they are unable to think outside the box.  Almost all of them posses leftist ideology ( Marxist/Leninist), and their attitude totaly resemlbes of the hardcore and radical regime of Stalin. To add insult to injury, these people got an strong influence on Awami Leages through Late Tajuddin.
Till date, they are still capable of influencing Awami Leage's decission making, though it had costed the party its chief and left them out of the driving seat for a long 21 years.
 Probably these people's ability to make huge noise in the media, has kept them in party roster. And that is exactly they are doing on behalf of Awami Leage.
 As Mr Aminul Islam wanted to know, what they want is pretty simple. To fullfill their ill conceived, radical and destructive agenda through Awami Leage. So they wanna see AL to be in the power by "any means." Thats why they shout, they jump and never hesitate to even LIE.
 Whatever anomosity is seen here against pro Bangladesh stand is nothing but the fallout of commie influence on some ordinary people.
 Musfique 
Sun Jul 6, 2008 2:13 pm
 
--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Md. Aminul Islam <aminul_islam_raj@...> wrote:
From: Md. Aminul Islam <aminul_islam_raj@...>
Subject: RE: [notun_bangladesh] Mr. S A Hannan - Repentence for the past mistakes and asking the victims for forgiveness is the only way to create a better world !
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com, sonarbangladesh@yahoogroups.com, WideMinds@yahoogroups.com, notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com, banglarnari@yahoogroups.com, dahuk@yahoogroups.com, khabor@yahoogroups.com, chottala@yahoogroups.com, vinnomot@yahoogroups.com, notunbangladesh@yahoogroups.com, faruquealamgir@..., ayubi_s786@..., javediqbalkaleem@..., dreamer_hillol@..., chena_kew@..., bdmailer@..., diagnose@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 4:26 AM

 Why the issue now?
   What  they really  want ?
Are they more patrot than Osmany Jaill col Akbor?
 
osmany jalil acber never rose such demand.
But DR kamal is demanding for trial of "war criminals"who is DR kamal?
He was called Rajaker in in Charampatra of Sadhin Bangla beter kendra.
He signed the packt which bar the trial of crimes in 1971.
Musfique Prodhan <chena_kew@...> wrote:
 
Mr Raisuddin's call for unity for the betterment of Bangladesh is the demand of all patriots. However, his rebuttal below, may create doubt in ones mind about the depth of his understanding about our national agendas.
 
There was only one agenda during our liberation war; i.e Freedom. Since the communist   super power like USSR along with Socialist minded India helped us to fight for our cause, then Govt have adopted the Socialism, Secularism, Democracy, and Nationalism (Bangali) as the four pillars of our constitution. 
 
After the sad demise of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, and the rise of Bangladeshi nationalism, three out of four pillar of our Constitution was amended. Since  it got popular among Bangladeshis, even Awami Leage too have adopted similar approach to their own constitution, though it was not inked.
 
Awami Leage who politically steered our liberation war, clearly have adopted Capitalism over Socialism and Theism over Secularism in their principle. Only a hand full non realistic AL fans seldom echoes to go back to 1972s constitution as a part of non serious political chants.
 
When Mr Raisuddin accuses Mr Ayubi to stand against the basic code of Bangladesh's liberation war, then one must wonder which century Mr Raisuddin belongs to? Because there is nothing against BD priciples that was disputed by Mr Ayubi. And Mr Raisuddin also didnot mention those violations at all.
 
Except for democracy, the other three principles of our liberation war have been amended. If Mr Raisuddin is unaware of the change, then it must wonder which world does he lives?
 
Though Bangladesh Awami Leage along with the name sake leftist parties seldomly echoes the banning of JIB from our political arena, but such call was never serious nor practical. In parliamentary system, two third majority in the house is necessary to pass such resolution. 
 
As far as the trial of the war crimes collaborator goes, in a civil society such can easily be attained through the judiciary. But such issue has been nourished days after days to gain political leverage, hence we see the emerge of GhaDaNiC, Sector Commander's Forum etc. If the issue was that serious to the concern parties, then they should already knocked the doors of the court, instead of engaging in street side violent agitation and killing of the innocents. ( Remember the Oct of 2006 event?) 
 
These are the things Mr Ayubi have been pointing out time to time, for which Mr Raisuddin have awarded him as the sympathizer of  Rajakar, Al Badr, Al Shams, Urdu loving, even Al Quaida !!!! ( I wonder where does Al Quida comes from in this issue? Seems like someone really need serious learning about contemporary history of the world events)  
 
These tittles have been misused so much, that it doe snot make no impact on general public any more, rather sometimes raises the eyebrows into wonder.    
 
I have bad news for all Bangla loving patriots. Look deep in your own household. Your young ones know Hindi ( the mother of Urdu) better than Bangla, your female members are psychotically obsessed with Hindi entertainment channels and fashion, your dramatists, cinema and music directors often copy Hindi dialogs and songs. So is it ok to criticize one, probably who was born and grew up in a Urdu environment,  for having limited passion for Urdu? ( A huge portion of Dhakaiyas speak Urdu as their mother tongue)
 
My writeup should not be assumed as an answer on behalf of Mr Ayubi, as he is quite capable of doing it himself. Rather I am trying explore the common grounds among us to be united, as called by many reputed members here, that includes Mr Raisuddin too as well.
 
In order to be united for greater cause, we must explore bias free sources to educate/rededucate  our knowledge base. So we have a much clearer picture of our history and culture of present and past. Based on our rejuvenated mind, definitely we could adopt a path of meaningfull unification, for the greater cause of Bangladesh. Raising ourselves above political biasness would remove any bar from that noble path.  
 
Please agree that  Bangladesh is much bigger than any political party or figure.
 
 
 
Musfique.

--- On Fri, 7/4/08, Kajimel Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@hotmail. com> wrote:
From: Kajimel Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: [notun_bangladesh] Mr. S A Hannan - Repentence for the past mistakes and asking the victims for forgiveness is the only way to create a better world !
To: notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 7:54 AM

Mr. Ayubi,
 
With due respect, may I ask you, a similar question to you why you are so obsessed with Urdu, Pakistan, hijakars of Islam, Jamat, Arabists, Rajakars, Albadar, Alshams, AlQuaeda, and all who goes by someway, or by whatever means, go against the Basic Codes of Bangladesh on which this country was founded? Why you and your supporters have despicable stinky mouth through which world's most hated words come out when you are after someone? Why you can not maintain your normal posture in the public arena and express yourself like a gentlemen and an orator rather than showing extreme intolerance and uttering lowest level laudable words? You are a retired person having enough time to do all these and earn something out of it but most of the other people like me have regular work to earn, a lot of family work, and in between trying to contribute something, as much as possible, for the Mo/Fatherland where I was born, grown, educated, and earning by work, and where my all ancestors were born and where all my coming generations will be rooted. This isn't the same as you and us. Anyone like me have no free time to garbages out of the internet plate. So, I would really really request you to focus on the issues, talk about the issues the way you like, contribute rather confuse and laud, and be player and partner, either on side, or oppsite side, or be independent speaker or observer, but please don't drag us into plague. Almost everybody knows what is good and what is bad. Public isn't stupid. So, good deeds will make you better and submerging in evil will only bring loss, pains, and ultimate destruction of people and the country. We have to work together regardless of the difference of opinions. We must disagree to finally agree into better points. Let's have unity for the sake of my Mo/Fatherland instead of bifurcating, trifurcating, or multi-furcating the nation and the country. It's not going to happen unless leaving the detrimental extremism that you and your supporters are showing to the general puiblic of Bangladesh. iIam saying all these becuse I am an extremely neutral person. I was never affiliated with any party, any organization, any group, or anything other than myself. However, I am a keen observer of what is going on in Bangladesh. All I want the stability and progress of Bangladesh. I really have hard time to tolarate anyone who I find are engaged in the subversive activities against Bangladesh whoever he may be. Thanks.
 
Regards,
K. Raisuddin
To: khabor@yahoogroups. com; notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com; chottala@yahoogroup s.com; SonarBangladesh@ yahoogroups. com
From: s_ayubi786@yahoo. com
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 06:33:40 -0700
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Mr. S A Hannan - Repentence for the past mistakes and asking the victims for forgiveness is the only way to create a better world !


MR.ASLAM,
              WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH JBI AND PAKISTAN, IN TODAYS CONTEXT THEY ARE MUCH SMALLER EVIL THAT OUR BIG NEIGHBOUR WHO ARE OUT TO DESTROY US. WHY NOT THINK OF WAYS TO DEAL WITH THEM. WE CAN DEAL WITH PAKIS AND JIB LATERWARDS  ALSO BUT THIS DANGER IS IMMINENT. THEY ARE NOW GOING TO IMPOSE THEIR STOOGES IN OUR COUNTRY AS OUR RULERS. THEY ARE ACCUSING US OF TRAINING INSURGENTS BUT IT IS THEY WHO PATRONISED THE HILL TRACT INSURGENTS AGAINST BANGLADESH.
          FOR OUR VERY SURVIVAL WE MAY HAVE TO TIE UP WITH CHINA AND PAKISTAN. SO WHY BOTHER PAISTGAN NOW. THEY MAY BE OUR USEFUL ALLY AGAINST INDIA. YOU ARE DRAGGING A MINOR AND INSIGNIFICANT PROBLEM IN THE CONTEXT OF TODAY TOO FAR AND IGNORING THE BIGGER MENACE. THE WORLD HAS CHANGED IN LAST FORTY YEARS. YOU HAVE LOT OF CATCHING UP TO DO TO REACH TWENTY FIRST CENTURY.
                 SALAHUDDIN AYUBI

--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com> wrote:
From: Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com>
Subject: [notun_bangladesh] Mr. S A Hannan - Repentence for the past mistakes and asking the victims for forgiveness is the only way to create a better world !
To: khabor@yahoogroups. com, notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, chottala@yahoogroup s.com, SonarBangladesh@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 8:12 PM

Repentence for the past mistakes and asking the victims for forgiveness is the only way to create a better world and unify people not by justifying the crimes and misdeeds or by denials   !
 
wrt:
 
Yes, the ordinary people of Pakistan was not responsible for the
atrocities of 1971in Bangladesh by the  ruling Junta of Pakistan  of
which  Jamaate Islami (JIB) was the main local collaborator.
 
Among many reasons that "keep the Muslims of Bangladesh and
Pakistan divided" is a basic attitude that is reflected in the blog below:
"Paki-Jamaati snakes are undermining our Liberation 
War with their venoms and justifying Pak-attrocitie in the
name of Islam...... [Javed Iqbal Kaleem's blog].
Here is the quote justifying the genocide of 1971 in the
name of Islam :
"Anybody or group that raises arms against a Muslim government,
loses his identity of a Muslim and becomes a renegade. He deserves
death penalty for his rebellion... ....If the Jamaat helped and supported
the army. it did it for the cause of Muslim Ummah. When Awami League
tried to break a Muslim country by seeking aid of the worst anti-Muslim
enemy, Jamaat tried to save Pakistan." - Jamaati Javed Iqbal Kaleem in
Do you approve this Paki-Jamaati propaganda,Brother Hannan ?
 
The people of different countries can join together to
form a better world only through a bottom up approach.
Although very feeble we can see a growth of
voices of conscince in Pakistan which can unify
the mankind: Repentence for the past mistakes  
and asking the victims for forgiveness is the only way
to create a better world for the people of the countries
that had been at war with each other, not by justifying the
crimes and misdeeds or denials.
 
Voice of Conscience from Pakistan  
Like charity, religion and moral values begins at home. Islam can benefit by creating
an environments for better families and tolerance towards others, not by preaching own
supremacy, hatered & parochialism in the name of Islam.
 
 
Syed Aslam
 
On 7/2/08, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangl adesh.com> wrote:
»¿
Dear members,
 
Assalamu Alaikum. As regards the correspondence below , as far as I nderstand there are some extremists on both sides who are  making highly sentimental stories to inflame public opinion. The truth, free from propaganda, on the events of 71can be properly evaluated if any one reads the accounts on it by senior writers from Bangladesh, India, Pakistan and Americans and European journalists. Then only it will be possible to form a balanced view.
Recently my niwce , a journalist went to Pakistan in a journalists delegation .She wrote and also told me that common people of Pakistan  say that they are in no way responsible. It is only the then politicians and  generals who were responsible for all mis-happengs. They feel that some element are out to keep the Muslims of Bangladesh and Pakistan divided so that enemies of these countries and Islam can benefit.
 
Shah Abdul Hannan
 
--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com> wrote:
 
WRT:
 
 
Bangladesh: A Legacy of Blood, Lest we forgetâ€"lest we forget!
 
Mr. Saluddin Ayubi

These are clear indications that few Paki-Jamaatis [ Javed, Kaukab et el] are very active
 in Bangladeshi forums and trying to justify the crimes of 1971 where Jamaate Islami was
the main accessory and collaborator with it's Al-Badar in the front-line.
Till today, they are actively trying to falsify our history and justify their crimes and atrocities
of 1971 in the name of Islam. JIB and its cohorts  have the same game plan.
 
I have no problem with the ordinary people of Pakistan, they are as deprived as our
ordinary masses. What has happened in 1971 is a phenomenon. This phenomenon
may repeat unless the new generation know the true history of our Nation's birth
and stay alert against all external enemies, and enemies within. The price for our
independence was paid with the blood of our masses and the izzats of mothers and
sisters. 
 
Do you see that the same Pakistani indoctrination still prevails, I have been called
a Hindu (Mr. Sri Gose) , promoting his Indian agenda,  just because I have a different
vision or different points of view. I read in history books and heard from our elderly that every
democratic movements before independence [1947-71 from Bhasa Andolon to 6-point /11-point
movements] were termed as acts of Hindus promoting Indian agenda. I think, you know
better than me ....
 
Lo and behold ! All our victories of yesterday
Is embedded in one that we paid the price with blood...
And the honor of our mothers and sisters ...
Stay alert of the traitors and enemies within .....
Lest we forgetâ€"lest we forget!
 
Thanks for your patience
 
Syed Aslam
 
 
 
On 7/1/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo. com> wrote:
Mr. Aslam,
              I fail to understand as to why are you trying to quote from a Pakistani national  and trying to prove that he is Bangladeshi Jamat Activist. Pakistanis may say anything but we can not take that as bench mark for anything because we are no longer Pakistan. We were Pakistan for only 24 years and we are Bangladesh for 37 years. the most active part of our population were all born in bangladesh. Then why cant you forget Pakistan. We have nothing to do with them. they are not our friend , philosopher or guide. So why bother about them. Just believe that Pakistan do not exist.
                     Salahuddin ayubi 
 

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