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[vinnomot] [Bengali article] Religion as social identity


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    Based on recent development in social science, I have tried to explain behavior of both religious and atheist people as 'role playing'  model in our society. This is an attempt to explain why we look for an identity in religion and how that identity crisis gradually leads to
 religious extremism.

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[vinnomot] Most Muslim coverage 'negative' -- BBC news

Most Muslim coverage 'negative'

Researchers looking at the way British Muslims are represented by the media say they have found that most coverage is negative in tone.

A Cardiff University team behind the study looked at nearly 1,000 newspaper articles from the past eight years.

Two-thirds focused on terrorism or cultural differences, and much of it used words such as militancy, radicalism and fundamentalist.

The research was commissioned by Channel Four's Dispatches.

Dr Paul Mason, a member of the team, said the team looked at three areas.

They carried out a statistical analysis looking at types of stories and the way Muslims were described and the language used, the photographs used alongside the stories and they analysed the types of case studies used.

You get these inaccurate stories about this threat of there is going to be more mosques than churches which is a complete nonsense
Dr Paul Mason
He said: "We looked at both nouns and adjectives and the way in which British Muslims were described.

"And we found the highest proportion of nouns used were about things like extremism, suicide bombers, militancy, radicalism - which accounted for over 35% of the adjectives used about British Muslims - fanatic, fundamentalist - those kinds of languages were used.

"And Islam was portrayed or constructed in the language as dangerous or backward or as a threat," he said.

The team found that since the attacks of 11 September 2001 in the United States and 7 July 2005 in London there had been an increase in stories about British Muslims and this peaked to more than 4,000 in 2006.

'Perceived threat'

Mr Mason added: "What you have to be careful of here is to watch the kind of generalisation of the very, very small number of people that are involved in political violence of any kind and the generalisation about Islam which is carried out by the newspapers.

"So following 9/11 and 7/7 of course there is a perceived threat from the public and the public are concerned about political violence.

"But it is wholly wrong to make what the newspapers do in the generalisation of those who carry out public violence to the whole of Islam and the whole of the British Muslim community."

He said there were concerns that journalists and editors may have sought to appeal to their own readership about some perceived threat to British unity or values.

"You get these inaccurate stories about this threat of there is going to be more mosques than churches, which is a complete nonsense.

"There are roughly 900 mosques and there are 42,000 churches, so this is a ridiculous report."

The Channel Four documentary, It Shouldn't Happen To A Muslim, investigated whether the 7/7 London bombings and the fear of terrorism had fuelled a rise in violence, intolerance and hatred against British Muslims.



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[vinnomot] Article 4 : Does science make belief in Allah/God obsolete? Absolutely ! – Claimss an eminent scientist :

Article 4 : Does science make belief in Allah/God obsolete?

 

 Absolutely ! – Claimss an eminent scientist : 

Today we have scientific explanations for the natural phenomena that mystified our ancestors for thousands of years, and many scientists and philosophers, therefore, rightly believe that we no longer need to appeal to a supernatural fictional Allah/God for explanations, thereby making Allah/God redundant and obsolete. As for the irrational people of different faiths, many of them believe that science, by offering such explanations, opposes their mis-understanding about the creation of the universe. As science denies this fundamental mis-belief, they conclude that science is their enemy. These different points of view share a common conviction: that science and religion are irreconcilable enemies. Are they….?

I do mainstream research; I publish in peer-reviewed journals; I present my research at professional meetings; I train students and postdoctoral researchers; I try to learn from nature : how nature works is the question I always ask myself. In other words, I am an ordinary scientist. I am also a believer in the fictional religion. I shamelessly attend church; I blindly sing in the gospel choir;; I routinely pray regularly to I don't whom ? I try to do justice and walk humbly with my fellow humans. In other words, I am an ordinary person of a fictional faith. To many people, this justifiably makes me a contradiction—a sane scientist who insanely believes in a fictional Allah/God. But to many more people, I am someone very ordinary believer just like them. While most of the media's attention goes to the strident atheists who rightly claim that the classical religion is foolish superstition, and to the equally stupid religious creationists who deny the clear evidence for cosmic and biological evolution, however, there are many hypocrites like me who have no difficulty in accepting rational scientific knowledge and holding to an irrational, fictional and medieval religious faith !

As an experimental physicist, I require hard evidence, reproducible experiments, and rigorous logic to support any scientific hypothesis. How can such a person base his belief on the mere fiction of a supernatural faith? In fact there are two questions here: "How can one believe in an Allah/God without evidence ; and, why do I, of all the people, believe in such absurdity ?

On the first question: can a rational scientist believe in a fictional Allah/God without any rational or scientific proof ? Scientific statements are exact and are based on facts. Einstein's theory of relativity correctly describes the behaviour of visible objects in our solar system. Extremely careful measurements have proved that this statement is correct. By contrast, religious statements are not provable. I might say, "God created us and wants us to make love with one another." I cannot think of anything that could prove that statement rational as the very idea of an Allah/God is mere an irrational fiction. The general statements like "She sings beautifully." "He is a good man." "I love you," are all, in one or the other sense, scientific statements which, scientifically speaking, express our feelings and value judgements. One must conclude then that an attitude of scientific observations with philosophical rationalism and common sense/reason is, indeed, the only sane and useful way of looking at life.

What about the second question: why do I believe in God? As a physicist, I look at nature from a particular perspective. I see an orderly, balanced universe in which nearly all physical phenomena can be understood from a few simple mathematical equations. I see a universe that, had it evolved slightly differently, would never have given birth to stars and planets, let alone bacteria and people. Many good scientists have concluded from these observations that a set of circumstances and forces must have been at work in the evolution of the universe with such a wonderful, complicated, and life-giving properties. Many of these good scientists are atheists, while others are agnostics. I, hypocritically believe in God because I do not have the courage to do otherwise. Not that I am afraid of the sanctions of the too authoritarian Church threatening me with excommunication and consequent expulsion from the university professorship, or of assassination / poisoning by a Christian fundamentalist belonging to the very secretive « Society of Jesuit » or interference in my married life leading to divorce due to the manipulation by an expert social agent of the secretive Christian organisation called the « Opus Dei ». But with these considerations I justifiably feel that idea of a God, however fictional, is a guarantee sufficient for protecting me from the evil that the Christian Church and its various evil and secretive organisations habitually do against heretics. They may not be burning women as witches and atheist professors as heretics today as they did with millions of European women and men in the religious Dark Ages of 16th Century Europe, believe you me, they are still capable of much evil in thousand more subtle and sophisticated ways. The Jesuits, for example, are secretly working in more than 100 countries of the world, they now use and abuse psychology and psychiatry, they can artificially create mental disorders and force people into a « voluntary » suicide as is happening in UK and France : 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/humanist_international/message/101.  You may call me a hypocrite but being a hypocrite is, of course, better than being burnt at the stake, literally or metaphorically, is it not !
Does this mis-belief makes me a better person or a better physicist than others? Hardly. I know plenty of atheists and agnostics who are both better people and better scientists than I. I don't think that this belief makes me any better than I would be if I did not believe. Am I free of doubts about God? Hardly. Questions about the presence of evil in the world in the very presence of the so-called omnipresent loving God, the suffering of innocent children, the variety of religious thought, and other imponderables often leave me wondering if I am in my right mind, and always leave me conscious of my ignorance, if not of outright stupidity. Nevertheless, I do believe, more because of my ignorance of rationalist science than anything else ; but ultimately just because I don't know what else to believe. Believing since childhood has created a space in my mind which must be filled with some hotchpotch, of this or that religion !

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 Does science make belief in Allah/God obsolete ? Article 1: Necessarily, it does - speaks a physicist

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Article 2: Yes, of course - speaks a psychologist
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/humanist_international/message/115> Article 3 :
No, and yes - speaks a Christian priest ....! <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/humanist_international/message/116>



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[vinnomot] Loving and Leaving the Head Scarf



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Loving and Leaving the Head Scarf

What hijab's revolving door says about the religious mobility of American Muslims.

By Andrea Useem

A woman wearing a headscarf

For most teenage girls, rebellion involves a tongue piercing or sneaking out to a beer-soaked party. But Suraya Ali, the daughter of unobservant Muslim immigrants from India, shocked her parents and her classmates by donning a Muslim head scarf. "It was my way of flipping the world off, saying, 'I can be what I want,' " says Ali, now 31, who grew up in a Chicago suburb.

But a decade and a half later, Ali had a "strange feeling" of no longer fitting in with her Muslim community; she was constantly set up with potential suitors who assumed her scarf symbolized a certain submissive attitude toward marriage; and her elite education had prompted her to question the traditional roles for men and women laid out in classical Islamic law. "I realized [wearing hijab] is not who I am anymore."

Ali's decision was visible only to those who knew her (and because of her family's sensitivities, she did not want her real name used). But her experience reveals how very modern American Muslim life can be. Hijab in America is not a social norm of ages past, unquestioningly handed down; rather, it has become a tool of self-expression. Just as Americans frequently change jobs, leave marriages, and switch religious affiliations, American Muslim women choose to love, and sometimes leave, the head scarf.

When Yale anthropologist Carolyn Rouse studied African-American Muslim women for her 2004 book Engaged Surrender, she observed that the hijab (and, in some cases, niqab, or face-covering) was primarily about group identity. Many female converts, for example, started veiling themselves immediately—the two were seen as inseparable. Wearing hijab "signified belonging to the ummah," or the broader, idealized Muslim community, she said. But this voluntary expression of citizenship doesn't always last. By the time Rouse wrote her epilogue, several of the women she had followed no longer wore the scarf. One convert, Rouse wrote, "believes she used hijab to prove to herself the depth of her faith. Now that she feels more secure with her faith she does not feel she needs it."

When I first put on the head scarf eight years ago—starting off with a horrible tan-and-white polyester square I purchased before I realized hijab could be stylish—I felt that I was daring to follow my beliefs, come what may. What I believed at that moment, as I pinned the polyester beneath my chin, was that God wanted me to cover, to simultaneously hide my beauty (such as it was) and proclaim my faith. I had become Muslim two years earlier while living and working in East Africa. As a journalist and "honorary male," I had mixed with more Muslim men than women in my travels and therefore gave little thought to hijab before converting. It was only when I returned to the United States for graduate school that I begin to notice my fellow muslimahs wearing head scarves. Had I missed something?

A turning point came one day at a cafe (OK, it was Starbucks) in Harvard Square, when a scarf-wearing woman walked in. Some customers gave her uneasy glances, and I felt sharp regret that she had no idea a fellow believer was sitting right there, silently supporting her. After that, I researched classical Islamic law as best I could and concluded that covering everything but your hands, face, and feet was, indeed, "required" for believing Muslim women.

The Quran actually has just two verses dealing specifically with women's dress. Chapter 33, verse 59, tells women to wear outer garments so they'll be recognized as Muslims and left alone. A longer verse, Chapter 24, verse 31, instructs women to guard their modesty, to cover their breasts, and not to display their beauty to males except their brothers, husbands, fathers, eunuchs, male slaves, etc. To the modern reader, the words can appear maddeningly ambiguous and painfully out of date, and they require not only translation from classical Arabic but a grasp of seventh-century historical context. Both passages are hotly debated. For hijab apologists, however, the verses, along with prophetic endorsement and scholarly rulings, prove that full covering is obligatory. This opinion is mainstream among Muslims in the United States; according to a 2007 study, 51 percent of American Muslim women wear hijab all or some of the time.

" 'Hijab is beautiful, hijab is what God wants, hijab is a Muslim woman's duty'—that's become a mantra among Muslim communities," says Fatemeh Fakhraie, a graduate student, blogger, and co-founder of the Facebook group "Just Because I Don't Wear Hijab Doesn't Mean I'm Not Muslim."

These theological arguments, while important in their own ways, sometimes seem little more than a patina atop more primal social urges, however. Wearing hijab or not wearing hijab—just like owning a gun or driving a Prius—says something fundamental about your beliefs and aspirations. And in America, at least, beliefs have a funny way of changing.

My own fervent attachment to the scarf gradually faded. Two years after first donning it, I was married and no longer needed the scarf to broadcast my unavailability to non-Muslim guys. I had also moved to a Persian Gulf country where hijab was not a personal choice but a cultural system of sex segregation: On the beaches there, men in shorts played soccer and swam, while women in layers of black polyester dipped their toes in the water and shook sand from their shoes.

Like spouses who know they are headed for divorce but still go through the marital motions, many hijabis continue to wear the scarf in public long after its inner meaning has dissipated. They wait for a natural break in their lives to make the transition. I took it off on my return flight from the Persian Gulf to the United States. Ali removed it after finishing a summer internship. Another woman I know literally moved across the country to make the change, simultaneously leaving the tight-knit Muslim community she felt was suffocating her and the scarf that pledged her allegiance to it. Saleemah Abdul-Ghafur, author of the 2005 essay collection Living Islam Out Loud, found that taking off hijab was about breaking up with not only her Muslim community but also her childhood assumptions. After she divorced an abusive husband, Abdul-Ghafur found herself judged and isolated by her fellow Muslims. Feeling burned by community norms that rushed her into marriage with the wrong guy, she questioned the hijab. "Taking it off expanded my identity—it was exciting, like a new haircut," she says.

But if you start pulling at the thread of doubt, how do you keep the whole sweater from unraveling? When religious scholar Karen Armstrong left her convent in the late 1960s, she proceeded to leave Catholicism, and today she says even the label of "freelance monotheist" feels restrictive. Ali still prays five times a day, fasts for Ramadan, and remains attracted to a somewhat-traditional religious outlook. "I don't think Islam is untrue in any way. But I did get very stuck in a way of looking at things that made Islam feel untrue, and I had to separate those things."

While many American Muslims dwell contentedly within the limits of modern Islamic orthodoxy—miniworlds where hijab can be taken for granted—others avoid it or pass through en route to more spacious destinations.

Andrea Useem is a freelance religion writer and editor. Her Web site is www.ReligionWriter.com.

Article URL: http://www.slate.com/id/2191103/

Related in Slate
Asra Q. Nomani explained how retailers market to fashion-conscious Muslim women and later asked why Western publishers have a veil fetish. Anne Applebaum argued that it is rude to wear a niqab, a full-faced veil, at work and reported on the ongoing head scarf debate in Turkey. Lee Smith asked whatever happened to Arab feminism. In 2002, June Thomas rounded up with international newspapers were reporting on a Singapore battle over head scarves.
 
Andrea Useem is a freelance religion writer and editor. Her Web site is www.ReligionWriter.com.

 

Copyright 2008 Washingtonpost.Newsweek Interactive Co. LLC


 
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[vinnomot] US Muslim women seek active faith role



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By Robert Pigott
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The women of the Akhtar family, Pakistanis from New Jersey. From right, Mona, Mino (mother), Sonia, Sheema. See the Akhtar family at a weekend lunch, and the renewal of Islam in America seems inevitable and irresistible.

Shahid and Mino Akhtar were born in Pakistan and, like their son and three daughters, they are devout Muslims who attend the mosque regularly.

Meeting them at their house in a quiet tree-lined street in Emerson, New Jersey, it soon seems clear that they, and their progressive Islam, are as perfectly adapted to life in modern America as their Christian neighbours.

Shahid is a hands-on dad. While his wife pursued a career as a lawyer he took charge of raising the children. His son Reza, a hospital doctor, is following his example by being the one who cooks dinner and does the dishes as his wife, Amna, also works.

The Aktar daughters are pursuing careers as a lawyer, businesswoman and dentist. Their emancipation has not diluted their sense of being Muslim, but it has changed it.

Sheema wears shorts to play soccer, but sees no conflict with the duty to behave modestly. They feel bound by the duty to pray, for example, but not at five set times each day.

Mino Akhtar says connection with God is what counts.

"In terms of the daily practices, when I travel on business I don't get to get to pray five times a day," she says. "It's my connection with the creator that's more important than how I do it."

"Absolutely," says her daughter Sheema. "We're just adapting to the surroundings. As long as you have the basic principles, and you abide by them and remember Allah every day."

Women 'reclaiming Islam'

American Muslims' determination to grasp the basic principles of their religion - rather than the sometimes harsh rules contributed by other cultures during its long history - grew out of the wreckage of the World Trade Center towers.

"We've been working with a variety of organisations on really taking the teachings of Islam and delivering them without the baggage of tradition"
Lena Alhusseini

Islam series: Radical revision

Lena Alhusseini of the Arab American Family Support Center, New York Shahnaz Taplin Chinoy stands on Brooklyn Heights and surveys the southern tip of Manhattan. She recalls the events of 11 September 2001, and the moment she made it her mission to reclaim the Islam of her childhood.

"I was bombarded by questions from friends," she says. "They kept saying, 'why does Islam suppress women? Why does Islam condone violence?' I was flabbergasted at the Islam of the hijackers which was so disconnected with the Islam of my youth - which was not extremist at all."

'Baggage of tradition'

Lena Alhusseini, whose origin is Palestinian, runs a family support centre for Arab-Americans in Brooklyn. She says women are leading the renewal of Islam because they have the most to gain.

"Oftentimes we get women who are illiterate. They come from tribal societies and in their understanding of Islam it's okay to be beaten by a man. Their role is to be subservient and that's the mark of a good Muslim woman - which is very different from what Islam teaches.

"So we've been working with a variety of organisations on really taking the teachings of Islam and delivering them without the baggage of tradition. And telling them this is what Islam is all about - Islam gives you rights, Islam doesn't allow you to be treated this way."

Laleh Bakhtiar is a Muslim scholar who has translated the Koran, making controversial changes in standard translations which she says more accurately reflect the original spirit of the religion.

 Dr Bhaktiar's English text has removed derogatory references to Christians and Jews. It changes many of the most important words, even substituting the word "God" for "Allah", which she says is more inclusive. Most controversially, her Koran rejects the idea, in Chapter Four, verse 34, that men may beat their wives.

"The word for "beat" has 25 meanings", she says. "We need to look therefore at what Muhammad did. He didn't beat but walked away. So why are we saying 'beat' when we can say 'go away' - which is what he did."

Modern mosques

Muslim women have also been demanding changes in the way mosques are run. Daisy Khan was among the designers contributing to the plans for Long Island Mosque in Westbury, a suburb of wide roads, trees and clap-boarded houses. She quickly discovered that the draft design confined women to a basement.

"Women were out of sight... the design was done in such a way that women were supposed to be downstairs with no access to the main prayer space," she says.

"You're talking about a country [the US] which is based on the principles of freedom and democracy, equality, justice - all these are Islamic"
Imam Shamsi Ali

Now women worship in the prayer hall behind the men, a step that seems radically modern to some new immigrants.

"There's no provision in Islam which says women can't pray in the same space," insists Ms Khan. "These are just traditions we've adopted over the years because of the practice in certain countries."

Among the Sufi Muslims of the Nur Ashki Jerrahi order at their meeting in Yonkers, men and women mix freely. The spiritual director is a woman. Shaykha Fariha occasionally leads both men and women in prayers, an act which has scandalised traditionalists but which she says is appropriate in America.

"In the West I'm more free about leading prayers" she says. "I think the tendency against it is mainly a cultural one."

At the New York Islamic Cultural Centre, a group of high-spirited girls is studying alongside boys on a Saturday morning. The mosque's imam, Muhammad Shamsi Ali, says educating girls is vital to developing Islam in the West, and is true to Islam's original purpose.

Girl students at the New York Islamic Cultural Center "Prophet Mohammed stated clearly that women must learn - they must be equal to the male intellectually, they have to improve themselves intellectually," he says.

Imam Shamsi Ali says he sees no incompatibility between the US and Islam. "You're talking about a country which is based on the principles of freedom and democracy, equality, justice - and all these are Islamic."

Shaykha Fariha says that apart from these shared principles, Islam has what the founder of her order described as the ability to behave like water - taking on the shape of the vessel into which it is poured.

She says Muslims in many parts of the world are shedding the cultural restrictions inherited from male-dominated and conservative societies.

"Islam is undergoing a huge reformation and self questioning, and certainly 9/11 has [led to] people looking at their religion and asking what has led to this," she says. "So I think what we're seeing today within the Islamic tradition is comparable to the Christian reformation in the sense of the dimension of its impact on the religion, its impact on individuals and its impact on the world as a whole."

Traditionalist critics say those who seek revolutionary change in Islam are diluting its teaching. They say that adapting the religion to contemporary mores progressively undermines its ability to give moral guidance to society.

But the Akhtar family insist that their modern lifestyle in secular America does not stop them practising what they call "the beautiful values of Islam".

Mona Akhtar, a lawyer, bubbles rose-flavoured smoke through an after-lunch shisha, and contemplates her emancipated sisters.

"We're living examples of the importance of women taking a more active role in Islam," she says. "We're following the spirit of the Koran." 
 

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[vinnomot] woman languishing in Bagram

Pakistani woman languishing in Bagram



By Jamal Shahid

ISLAMABAD, July 6: British journalist Yvonne Ridley called for help on Sunday for a Pakistani woman she believes is being held in isolation by the Americans in their Bagram detention centre in Afghanistan, for over four years.â€Å“I call her the ‘grey lady’ because she is almost a ghost, a spectre whose cries and screams continue to haunt those who heard her,â€� Ms Ridley said at a press conference, urging Pakistanis to help her.

Ms Ridley, who has come to Pakistan to appeal for help, said the case came to her attention when she read the Enemy Combatant, a book by former Guantanamo detainee Moazzam Begg. After being seized in February 2002 in Islamabad, Mr Begg was kept in detention centres in Kandahar and Bagram for about a year before he was transferred to Guantanamo Bay. He recounted his experiences in the book after his release in 2005.

Ms Ridley read the text from the book’s section covering Mr Begg’s stay in Bagram: â€Å“I began to hear the chilling screams of a woman next door… Why have you got a woman next door? They told me there was no woman. But I was unconvinced. Those screams echoed through my worst nightmares for a long time. And I later learned in Guantanamo, from other prisoners, that they had heard the screams too.â€�

She said the account had been corroborated by four Arabs who had escaped from Bagram in July 2005.. â€Å“While on the run, one not only confirmed he had heard a woman’s screams, but said he had seen her.â€�

Ms Ridley, who was detained in Afghanistan for 10 days by the Taliban in September 2001, said, â€Å“My story made international headlines, front page pictures and major stories on TV. But there has not been one word, not one paragraph about Prisoner 650 -- the ‘grey lady’ of Bagram, a murderous detention facility under control of US military and intelligence services.â€�

Demanding her immediate release from US military’s detention, Ms Ridley said: â€Å“We don’t know her identity, the state of her mind, the extent of the abuse or torture. What I do know is that this would never happen to a western woman. Don’t they value a Muslim woman. Is her life worthless?â€�

She urged every Pakistani to ring America, ask them who Prisoner 650 was. What was her crime? Who else was being held illegally? How many secret detention centres were there?

Ms Ridley’s colleague Saghir Hussain gave details about other people of the country who had ‘disappeared’.

â€Å“All, like the grey lady of Bagram, have been illegally abducted by secretive intelligence agencies. They began disappearing in 2001 during the so-called war on terror,â€� he said.

Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf chairman Imran Khan demanded that the government should hold an investigation into the case. â€Å“What has the sovereign parliament done about the missing persons?â€� he asked.




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