Mr. Asghar wrote: Allah has clearly said that, like the seven skies, He has also created seven earths on which lives exist and to which He sends His command. My Response: Mr. Asghar settled down to a complacent analysis of my point of view instead of analyzing word by word the verse that I have commented on. And the verse that I have addressed was: "Allah is he who created seven firmaments and of the earth a similar numbers". Now let us find out whether there are seven skies or seven layers of skies[plural] and of the the earth[singular not plural] similar numbers. But the verse that I have described has nothing to do with whether lives exist on the sky and on the earth. Let's find out about the layers of skies from another Koranic verse: (67:3) He Who created the seven skies one above another: No want of proportion wilt thou see in the Creation of (God) Most Gracious. So turn thy vision again: seest thou any flaw? Now the above verse indicates that "Allah who created the seven skies on above another" and one would conclude that layers of skies one above another. Since the above verse indicates layers of skies on above another hence of the earth a similar numbers of layers which I have described earlier in my previous post. As for the existence of lives on the sky and on the earth and the following verse will suffice: 24:41 "Seest thou not that it is Allah Whose praise all beings in the skies and on earth do celebrate,and the birds (of the air) with wings outspread? 42:29 "Among His (God's) signs is the creation of the skies and the earth,and the living creatures that He has scattered through them :and He has power to gather them together when He wills... 24:45 "And God has created every animal from water:of them are some that creep on their bellies;some that walk on two legs;and some that walk on four. God creates what he wills.. 2:164 "...in the beasts of all kinds that He scatters through the earth...are signs for a people that are wise," Mr. Asghar wrote: Mr. Alam has tried to explain this by describing the skies and the earth as [layers] with the caveat that this knowledge humans cannot acquire without having the knowledge of science! My response: Mr. Asghar has caveatted the statement with a reminder that certain facts are still unknown to him either by scientific knowledge or intuitive knowledge hence he should follow the following verse from Quran (43:4) "It is in the Mother Book with Us, sublime(divine) and full of wisdom." Mr. Asghar wrote: Allah has clearly described in the Quran that the skies are solid structures, which He created without pillars and that these skies will collapse on the Day of Judgment. My response: Please find below the verses that will indicate that the skies are not solid structures:41:11 Moreover, he directed himself to the sky and it was a smoke(vapor/ Mr. Asghar wrote: Science does not support the existence of skies in a solid form, as the so-called skies are nothing but a vacuum or space, nor does it support the existence of seven earths with lives thriving on them. My response: Whether the sky is being solid form or not has nothing to do with "Allah is he who created seven firmaments and of the earth a similar number. Is Mr. Asghar a great con-artist who succeed in deluding himself? Yes, absolutely and it's a disorder of intelligence and emotionally is acting as if ten years old spoiled kid. This imbecile peeping tom wishes to amuse. But why does he do this? What he is doing is tries to send the debate spiraling into unanticipated directions to secure narcissistic supply such as attention, admiration, adulation and gossip. Intentionally he is either unconscious of his lapse in logic or desirous of digging a pitfall for the feet of those who debate with him. Mr. Asghar wrote: So, what has Mr. Alam tried to explain by resorting to what he wrote in his supposedly grand expose? Mr. Asghar wrote: Has he tried to show that he is a modern man, with a modern thinking, but is a victim of his religious affliction? My response: What has to to with me being a modern man with a modern thinking? I think, it is Mr. Asghar's weakness to disparage the knowledge that he does not himself possess. One thing that western civilization certainly has not taught this guy is to make him intelligent enough to understand that the contrary of the point of view of mine is not necessarily to engage in personalities. Let's not engage in personalities. It's not about me Mr. Asghar. And as for me being Victim of my religious affliction? Why he needs to do this? I don't know what the meaning of religious affliction[feelings Mr. Asghar wrote: Or what he wrote is a mere rebuttal that he put forward without actually knowing what he is talking about? My response: If I donot know what I am talking about, then why would Mr.Asghar respond to this? So Mr. Asghar thinks, he knows what he is talking about? As we all know that one who wish to quarrel, will always find a pretense; if he can find no true grounds, then he will resort to those which are false[because the verse that we are debating about has nothing to do with whether "the skies are solid structure" or not - hence false]. Why this pathological liar lies about every thing all the time needlessly and compulsively when there is no need to tell a lie? Every time he opens his mouth another lie tripped off his tongue. Perhaps by telling the lie, omissions of the truth makes the game more interesting for him but leaves others in a state of confusion. With many years of practice, he become a very convincing liar. He is very good at what he does and fool a lot of people for a long time. As he knows by now that I am not a critic; I have no talent for keen analysis, as Mr. Asghar implies; I don't go into the reasons of things. I expect everything in its order. But One thing he should know by now that I've not been spoiled by the "trans-Atlantic truth" as a turncoat[over his lungi dispute with cleric during his mom's funeral - what a jolt!] Mr.. Asghar wants us to be. Just get this - the truth is bigger than the trans-Atlantic truth. OK Mr. Peeping Tom, behave yourself by being specific of every verse that you want to debate about. And I warn you again, let's not engage in personalities. Firoz Alam. |
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