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Dear All ,

The Balist do not utter " Bangladesh" they prefer only" bangla" still their slogan is joi Bangla not Bangladesh.We know that in war of liberation our freedom fighters uttered joi bangla, it was the time of war, know we have our country named Bangladesh.

So we should utter Bangladesh with great satisfaction. But the Balist do not do it.

So it is very clear why they want to named AL instead of BAL.

Even some times they say eper bangla oper bangla. They try utmost to avoid Bangladesh.

But why why why ?
Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo.com> wrote:

Belaady Phool A Rip van Ahammak so you do not have the stomch to digest the truth. Why dont you like it when we call a spade a spade. Standised abuse that you have for anyone who do not agree with you has become stale by its overuse. Try and coin something new.

              Belady Phool you must know that when you point one finger at others you are in fact pointing three towards yourself. try prcticing it. I just do not understand as to how uncouth and uncultured imbeciles like yoursself are allowed to participate in forums like this. To quote Iqbal " You are a disgrace to humanity, disgrace to the country and disgrace to the relition" belady phool.!!!!!

                      Salahuddin Ayubi

--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Arif Ahamed <ahamed.ahmed@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Arif Ahamed <ahamed.ahmed@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Our army backed caretaker government - if Tarek â€" Koko â€" Khaleda - Nizami gong are released from the custody â€" than no need keeping anyone in the custody of Bangladesh.
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Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 1:35 PM

Golam,

Why Bangladesh Rifle is called BDR, why not BR?

LLB is used for - Bachelor of Laws why not BL?

Why PhD is used for - Doctor of Philosophy, why not DP?

Why ASEAN stands for Association of Southeast Asian Nations, why not ASAN?

Why EMU stands for Electromagnetic Unit from last century? Why not EU?

USA is used for Army of United States of America? why not AUSA or USAA?

Why we use LLDC for Least Developed Country? Why not LDC?

Why BOCA is used for Building Officials & Code Administration International? Why not BOCAI?

I can quote hundreds of such examples!

So, abbreviations or acronymes do not always follow the same or any particular 'hard & fast' or specific rule or practice.

Read the English news paper of Dhaka and see what they write for Bangladesh Awami League?

It depends on taste, educational - family - political background - belief & support of person concerned.

Jamat - RAZAKAR - Paki supporters always like filthy words very much; they are fond of dirty verbal words, languagesl!

See the very common languages of Paki, most of the time they use - word "Ba...â€¦ut"!

So all these Jamat-RAZAKAR-Paki supporters like filthy words - like their GURU, USTADs!

of the individiual

So, think more before ink

On 6/30/08, Golam Ahmed <gatuhin@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Aslam,

I am confused. Please suggest me what should be the correct one.

So far as I know the abbraviation as follows:

BNP=Bangladesh National Party (Should I call it as NP?)

BAL=Bangladesh Awami League (you suggested me to call as AL). Are you suggesting to   remove B from this party name?

JP=Jatio Party(There is no B in this at all)

JIB=Jamate Islami Bangladesh(Should I call it as JI or IB).

Please reply.

I appreciate your response on this correction. Also, if you call it as AL, can you request

Bangladesh Awami League to remove Bangladesh from this party name? I am really confused.

Thanks

Golam Ahmed

Ohio, USA.

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamsul Alam Chowdhury <sach1970@yahoo.com>
To: notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:08:37 AM
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Our army backed caretaker government - if Tarek â€" Koko â€" Khaleda - Nizami gong are released from the custody â€" than no need keeping anyone in the custody of Bangladesh.

Mr. Golam Ahmed,

Should I congratulate you for joining one of the groups? So long you refered to Awami League as AL. But for the first time you have written BAL in your mail. Good improvement indeed!

S. A. Chowdhury

----- Original Message ----
From: Golam Ahmed <gatuhin@yahoo. com>
To: notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 5:21:50 AM
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Our army backed caretaker government - if Tarek â€" Koko â€" Khaleda - Nizami gong are released from the custody â€" than no need keeping anyone in the custody of Bangladesh.

Not only that. BAL made a secret deal with CTG that they will talk/sought against this CTG from home and abroad and at the same time they'll participate in all election. (for example, you'll recognize by this time, though they are talking against the city/pouro election their voice is not that much up so far). They are watching now carefully and doing all those things. Another example you will observe from Shaikh Hasina's tone/somabesh from Florida(Published in the Daily Inqilab on 26th June, today). They don't want BNP to participate in this election because they know the outcome if they do something like that.

Another example: Why Joy became silent after he met Gen Muyeen one year ago in the US? Joy knew from then and he kept himself silent. Now he got the result of becoming silent.

Once they are elected, they will authorize all the works done by this CTG. This CTG has to be sided to one of the big parties in BD. Otherwise they cannot save their backbone once BNP or BAL come in power. Thats why they are sided with BAL now.

Just wait and see their motive you will see all those.

----- Original Message ----
From: Md. Mostafa Kamal <mmk3k@yahoo. com>
To: notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:02:45 AM
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Our army backed caretaker government - if Tarek â€" Koko â€" Khaleda - Nizami gong are released from the custody â€" than no need keeping anyone in the custody of Bangladesh.

Yes......... .in 1986 Hasina said "Whom ever take part in the election under Ershad's govt. would be called the National Trator". But less than 24 hours She & her BAL turned U, which they took part in 1986 JS election.

So in Bangladesh who else can perform a better political drama than SHEIKH HASINA?

Thank You All,

Md. Mostafa Kamal.

--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Shamsul Alam Chowdhury <sach1970@yahoo.. .com> wrote:

From: Shamsul Alam Chowdhury <sach1970@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Our army backed caretaker government - if Tarek â€" Koko â€" Khaleda - Nizami gong are released from the custody â€" than no need keeping anyone in the custody of Bangladesh.
To: notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 1:04 PM

This hag finds a drama in this event too!

----- Original Message ----
From: Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo. com>
To: notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com; akj wso <aamra_korbo_ joy@yahoo. com>; Md Anwar Ul Millat <we_love_and_ trust@yahoo. com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:24:07 AM
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Our army backed caretaker government - if Tarek â€" Koko â€" Khaleda - Nizami gong are released from the custody â€" than no need keeping anyone in the custody of Bangladesh.

BAL has compromised with CTG and obtained release of Jalil and Hasina and about get release of chotta nasim.

                Ayubi

--- On Tue, 6/24/08, Engr. Shafiq Bhuiyan <srbanunz@gmail. com> wrote:

From: Engr. Shafiq Bhuiyan <srbanunz@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [notun_bangladesh] Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Our army backed caretaker government - if Tarek â€" Koko â€" Khaleda - Nizami gong are released from the custody â€" than no need keeping anyone in the custody of Bangladesh.
To: notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, "akj wso" <aamra_korbo_ joy@yahoo. com>, "Md Anwar Ul Millat" <we_love_and_ trust@yahoo. com>
Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 1:18 PM

Dear Joy Vai,

Thanks for your nice input and I am sorry for the late reply.

I got many (personal) comments - replies from many folks, most of them approving my comments and very few are not, but out of those 3 are very interesting, logical and sensible and your one is one of them.

So, though my exams are going on (but I got 2 day off from my office), still, I am giving reply to you and seeking apology (for not giving reply, but on BCC) to all of them (both admiring one & opposing) for some of my personal business (you also know that).

I am agreeing with you on most points. But not on every one of.

As for example,

I was not at all happy with the process (by present ABCG) of release of Sheikh Hasina.

I do not know why present government has given U-turn or become so flexible!

The reasons may be:

Allegations against are base less or not strong enough to punish Sheikh Hasina (false or impartial punishment will make her more popular, as dictator Ayub Khan made to Bangabandhu)
Plaintiff have also said that he did not accused Sheikh Hasina
Judge of the special court also said that she is "SHOLO ANA" (100%) innocent

And day by day more facts are coming out, viz,

It is not possible to carry 3 core taka notes in a briefcase or in a standard size suit case.
Even if Prime Minister allows a big box to get in to "Gana Vabon", still SSF will check that briefcase or suit case and its contents. But SSF has no such records
The organisation which gave 3 core taka donations to Bangabandhu Memorial Trust, same organisation also gave 7 core donations to "Shena Kollan Songstha" of BD Army. So in one instance it is crime and other instance it is not!
And many more inconsistencies are there and disclosing - on every day during the process & questionnaire in the court
Even plaintiff can not proper or correct answers to the question related to their case, govt pleader have to (illegally) tell the answer to the plaintiff!

So, the present ABCG has bow down to the demand of the Awami League.

Now to make "balance" (or for gratefulness to BNP), they are giving release to Khaleda - Tarek - Koko !

Then why not Babar, Falu, Mamun, BN Huda, Pintu, Abbas, Laltu, Baltu, Pintu, Lalu, Aman ? ? ? ??

Joy vai, when we used to exchange (big size) emails in past, you know that I have never wrote or told that Awami League or its all leaders are 100 % clean, honest, corruption free . Not even 90%.

But all the other parties (which have ruled our country) are much less better than Awami League - may be 50% or even less!

Yes, it is my personal opinion, observation - based on facts, authentic books, political columns, articles and news paper report etc

In my opinion 70% to 80% of top and main leaders of Awami League are honest (again they may not be 100% honest, may be 95%, may be 80%). I am quoting and saying all these from my experience and active involvement with this party and its leaders.

I know 99% top leaders - supporters of the organisation of Awami League supporting graduate Engineers, Bangabandhu Prokousholi Porishad.

Similarly I know most of the top ex Bangladesh Chatra League (BCL) leaders, since 1970 (I was member of BCL since 1969 and General Secretary of BCL of Intermediate Technical College, Dhaka in 1970, AGS of Dhaka College BCL unit in 1974, President and General Secretary of BCL BUET unit during 1977 - 78, 78-79-80, Assistant General secretary of "Jatio Karjokori Songsod" (Central Committee) of Bangladesh Chatra League BCL, when Obaidul Kader vai was president and Bahlul Majnun Chunnu Vai was General Secretary, 1979-1981. Dr. Mostafa Jalal Mohiuddin, Sultan Mohd Mansur, J K Nanak, K K.M Jahangir - all we were in same committee.

I feel proud that I addressed a gathering at historical BOT TOLA of Dhaka University during 1970, along with top 4 student leaders of Bangladesh at that time M/S Nur e Alam Siddiqui vai (most brilliant student leader ever I have seen), late A Kuddus Makhan vai, A S M Rob Vai, Shajahan Siraj. I have worked with Sheikh Shahid - Rashid panel (1973 - 1974) and then Monirul Haq Choudhury - Prodhan vai panel (1974 - 1975) of BCL too.

I had the chance to see and know many other political - business leaders of 3 top political parties (as they are involved with Abahoni) as I was founder President of the Abahoni Samorthak Gostee.

I know some back ground of many political-social wealthy people of our society when I worked in PWD

You may know or seen some postings of AL, BPP, ex BCL leaders who sometime participate in these blogs. Like Dr. Jamir Choudhury (GS of CUCSU, Ctg University), Engr. Asoke Bose VP of Ahan Ullah Hall of BUET & member of EUCSU, Dr Engr Gholam Mostafa (Gneral Secretary of Bangabandhu Prokoushali Parishad , BPP), Engr Asad (now Sr. DS, BD govt), Dr. Pradeep Ranjan Kar (GS of BAUCSU, Agricultur University), Dr. Jalil (VP of JSCU, Jahangir Nagar), Dr. Milton (leader of Dhaa Medical College), Engr Arif VP of Dhaka Intermediate Technical College, Engr. Akhter of BUET BCL, Mr. Sharif, President of DU BCL, Engr Jahangir VP of Nazrul Isalm Hall BUET & member of EUCSU, Engr. Dr. Hasan vai (2 times elected VP of BUET) and many others

Lastly I have closely seen a circle of some honest personalities in my family, close relatives and friends groups. They were my idols and I pay respect to them vaery much. Some of my very close relatives, who are very honest (wrt to Bangladesh context) and I got lesson & training from them. I am proud of them too, Alhamdulillah.

My 2nd Maternal uncle (Graduate engineer of 1957) was Chairman of Mongla Port Authority, Khulna (he was not offered the post of Chairman of the Chittagong Port Authority, though he worked there since 1963 (as Executive Engineer) up to 1989 (as Chief Engineer then Member Engineer), but he has no house in Dhaka or any other place. He stays in a rented house in Dhaka after his retirement. My 3rd maternal uncle was Managing Director of three public bank (BKB, HBFC, KB), he owns only one unit of a shared building, which he build in phases by taking loan from bank as a staff, which was submerged in 1988 flood. My 4th Uncle was Chief Engineer (Graduate engineer of BUET in 1963) then Managing Director of "Kollan Trust" of Bangladesh Railway and he has also no property in Dhaka or else where in Bangladesh. My 5th maternal uncle was also Engineer (of BUET in 1965) in T & T then left that lubricant job and worked overseas (Middle East) for about 20 years. My 6th uncle is a CA and he leads a simple life. My 7th maternal uncle is an MBBS and worked in Middle East for about 22 years. My 8th maternal uncle is also a graduate engineer and now works in Australian Defence department.

My father was Principal Scientific Officer in Bangladesh Jute Research Institute, Dhaka, Sher - Bangla Nagar and he was a very honest man too. He never ride in my PWD vehicle (as a protest and to give me a lesson, he know that I am not officially entitled to use that on personal use, I made only this (improper use of govt vehicle) crime in my whole service life).

My mother was an idle, religiously very pious woman who was a very exceptional mother, guide, teacher and friend too.

Alhamdulillah, we three brothers are also graduate engineer (one of them was a BUET Blue) and are doing well. My only brother in law is also a graduate engineer (my only sister, who died last year, was a 1st Class master degree holder in Mathematics) .

By the grace of Almighty Allah my two sons are also studying engineering in the University of Auckland.

My parents, relatives have shown, guided & trained us how to lead the simple, honest but peace full life.

So, I know what the honesty is and how tough to achieve and maintain it!

So, Joy vai, no more today and not more in near future too!

I will catch you later, after my exams.

"Sustha thakon, nirapade thakon ebong valo thakon"

Shuvechhante,

Shafiqur Rahman Bhuiyan (ANU)
NEW ZEALAND.

Phone: 00-64-9-828 2435 (Res), 00-64-0274  500 277 (mobile)
E-mail: srbanunz@gmail. com

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On 6/16/08, Md Anwar Ul Millat <we_love_and_ trust@yahoo. com> wrote:

anu bhai,

i am sure, you are happy to see al president is released and sent for treatment abroad. please dont be unhappy on govt's similar actions on other persons.

when all the supporters of al and bnp would celebrate these releases, be sure, many, including me, would consider it a strategic defeat, not only for the ctg, but also for all the democracy loving people of this country.

i will request you (and all) to keep your sense of patriotism (love for your country) above your love for a particular political party. i remember, mrs. amanullah aman, a cancer patient, was dealth with pretty ruthlessly when she alongwith her husband was undergoing trial.. shall i be very wrong if i say, she too deserved similar (or better) treatment??? we all know, there are many more persons in the prison, made of same flesh and blood, called human being, legitimate bangladeshi citizens, who need far more urgent treatment. let's be humane first.

deshke bhalo bashun, desher manushke bhalo bashun, bhalo thakun.

colonel millat

rajshahi

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Subject: [notun_bangladesh] Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Our army backed caretaker government - if Tarek â€" Koko â€" Khaleda - Nizami gong are released from the custody â€" than no need keeping anyone in the custody of Bangladesh.

Bravo!   Bravo!   Bravo!

Our army backed caretaker government

If Tarek â€" Koko â€" Khaleda - Nizami gong are released from the custody â€" than no need keeping anyone in the jail or custody of Bangladesh.

Is there was any crime which were not committed (directly and indirectly) by these gongs during their tenure of 2001 â€" 2006?

They looted - stolen cores of taka of people of Bangladesh
They took thousands of acres of govt owned land
They transferred cores of taka to overseas (even when this CA Mr. Fakruddin was Governor of Bangladesh Bank)
They killed, injured political leaders - MPs (from topmost level, like Ex Minister & current MP ASMS Kibria, ex MP Mrs. Ivy Rahman, current MP Ahsanullah Master, ex MP Momtazuddin, Manjurul Imam etc to the grass root level workers - supporters of opposition political parties, even person (in Bogura) reading Quran in the mosque)
They gave safe shelter to killers in exchange of cores of taka (Basundhora)
They killed, insulted their own party leaders - supporters - sympathisers (like Prof Aftab of DU, Jamal Uddin of Chittagong, Badruddoza Choudhury, Mahi Choudhury, Maj Mannan)
They tried to cleansing the religious minority group (killed hundreds of non Muslim, including Principal Binod Bihari, Buddhist spiritual leader)
They created thousands of "god fathers"
They gave 'mega size' (more than 62) corrupt minister
They polluted & destroyed the PSC
They polluted & destroyed judicial system
They polluted & destroyed the educational system
They polluted & destroyed the Administration - Bureaucracy
They polluted & destroyed the Election Commission (cores of false voter)
They polluted & destroyed the Army - Police and other law enforcing system

They had polluted & destroyed every thing of Bangladesh

To find their huge number of crimes â€" no need of the high power electronic microscope or "intensive investigation" !

Only need a fair, unbiased normal mind. So, no need of carry out any "intensive investigation" with "high power electronic microscope"!

If you go through the "un protested" newspapers reports (also in abroad) on the corruptions published during the tenure of the notorious Jamat-BNP tenure of 2001 â€" 2006 (and also after that, till now) including the newspapers sympathised or loyal to them including like, the Prothom Alo, the Amader Shomoy, the Jugantor, the Daily Star, the Inkilab, the Amar Desh, the Manabzamin, the Nayadiganta, . Leave the neutral & sincere newspaper like the Sangbad, the Janakantha, the Shamokal, the Ittefaq and other news paper like the Bhorer Kagoj, Ajkerkagoj (now closed) etc etc. (I can quote hundreds of such news paper report).

That is why Bangladesh was "champion" in corruption out of 5 terms 4 terms of Jamat-BNP era (and one time in Awami League era)!

Now these culprits are getting released from the custody by this ABCG!

Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Our army backed caretaker government

Really SELUKAS!

Our present neutral army backed caretaker government is really strange! SELUKAS!

"Sustha thakon, nirapade thakon ebong valo thakon"

Shuvechhante,

Shafiqur Rahman Bhuiyan (ANU)
NEW ZEALAND.

Phone: 00-64-9-828 2435 (Res), 00-64-0274  500 277 (mobile)
E-mail: srbanunz@gmail. com

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