[vinnomot] Re: [Amra-Bangladesi] Killers and traitors of 1971 must never go unpunished !

Do they know that BAL is a party of famous pro pakistan samsul huda choudhury, justice nurul islam ak faizul haque and of course Musarraf (beai of sk hasina) and km moidul

.Do they oppose the registration of BAL too?
Enayet Hossain <enayeth111@yahoo.com> wrote:

In 1971 some BALists did not want that Bangladesh would be a sovereign state, rather it would be a tail of India. Those traitors at any critical time create issues for making chaos, so that Bangladesh become weaker and India can put her nose in our internal issues. Chaos creators are traitors and anti-Bangladesh elements, nothing else.

Enayet

--- On Wed, 10/29/08, Md. Mostafa Kamal <mmk3k@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Md. Mostafa Kamal <mmk3k@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Amra-Bangladesi] Killers and traitors of 1971 must never go unpunished !
To: "Bangladesh Zindabad" <bangladesh-zindabad@yahoogroups.com>, "Amra Bangladesi" <amra-bangladesi@yahoogroups.com>, notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com, odhora@yahoogroups.com, alochona@yahoogroups.com
Cc: syed.aslam3@gmail.com, s_ayubi786@yahoo.com, chena_kew@yahoo.com, faruquealamgir@gmail.com, "Md. Aminul Islam" <aminul_islam_raj@yahoo.com>, mohiuddin@netzero.net
Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 8:01 AM

Dear Mr. Salahuddin,

There is a method in his madness. In Bengali "JATE MATAL, TAAL-E THIK".

Syed Aslam & his fellow BAList gongs never asked why in this world Sehikh Mujib so called the BAL's father let freed the 93000 Pakistani soldiers where there over 1000 army members were convicted WC Charges;

http://www.shamokal .com/archive. details.php? nd=2008-08- 14&nid=96981

Existing all WC laws obviously will identify these 1000 Pak army members with Generals of Pakistan including President Yahya Khan as the prime or main criminal aka WC. But the A K Khondokar now the Commanders of BAL CLOWNS never spoken against the decision of Sheikh Mujib. There will be no proper trial & justice without the main war criminals of 1971. Even if any international organization ask to handover the living x-army of Pakistan who were charged with WC won't be able to do so because Govt. of Pakistan will show about the kindness had been done by Sheikh Mujib & treaty between India-Pakistan( Shimla Treaty). So BAL's purpose is just political to win the upcoming election in December 18th 2008. So Sadhu Sabdhan!

Thank You All,

Md. Mostafa Kamal.

--- On Wed, 10/29/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [Amra-Bangladesi] Killers and traitors of 1971 must never go unpunished !
To: reform-bd@yahoogrou ps.com, "khabor" <khabor@yahoogroups. com>, chottala@yahoogroup s.com, "Amra Bangladesi" <amra-bangladesi@ yahoogroups. com>, notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, Amra-Bangladesi@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 9:28 AM

Mr. Aslam,

              First thing that I want to know is, as to why even after nearlly forty years these criminals have not been tried and why it is only when the election is approaching that we see the demand for trial of war criminals and razakars. I see this demand for trial of war criminals as a ploy to divert peoples attention away from the core issues that needs to be addressed by the political parties and their leaders. Another point, How do you propose to try the real war criminals i.e. the Pakistani war criminals?

           We are bloody fools and all the intelligent people are either BAL activist or BAL hangers on.

          I am not against trial of war criminals but I want to khon why it is only during election time that you want the trial of the war criminals. I am looking forward to know your explanation of this phenomenon.

                   Salahuddin Ayubi

                         Salahuddin Ayubi

--- On Wed, 10/29/08, Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com> wrote:

From: Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@ gmail.com>
Subject: [Amra-Bangladesi] Killers and traitors of 1971 must never go unpunished !
To: reform-bd@yahoogrou ps.com, "khabor" <khabor@yahoogroups. com>, chottala@yahoogroup s.com, "Amra Bangladesi" <amra-bangladesi@ yahoogroups. com>, notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 12:45 AM

wrt:

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/reform- bd/message/ 119

Jamaat reformed its constitution?

Ms.Nushaiba Abubakar

In your defense for Jamaat, you said:

"What about the voilance and hostility by other party?"

How can one crime justify other crime ?

It is an open secret that Jamaat's 1971 crimes were organized

crimes in the name of Islam and saving Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

Lest we forget, Jamaat's Al-Badar and it killing missions were

"political phenomena" that may repeat under different lebash,

unless the ordinary masses of Banladesh is constantly on the guard.

Thus, it is an utmost necessity to increase public awareness on

Jamaat's crimes of 1971.

Let everyone know what has hppened in 1971; Jamaat's
anti-people role must always be exposed.

Everyone must know that Jamaat's student wing Islami Chattro Sangha's

hand was tainted with so much of Bangladeshi blood that when it

resurfaced in late 70s, it had a new name Islami Chattro Sibir...

Again, Ms.Nushaiba Abubakar, you must always

differentiate between the Gestapo killers 1971 like

the Jamaat's Al-bodors wing and ordinary supporters

of Pakistan's integrity. The traitors and the killers should

never go unpunished.

Syed Aslam

Please read the following Bangla article in this connection:
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[Jamater Al-Badori Shomachar (Bangla)]

http://www.mukto- mona.com/ Articles/Abul_ Hossain_Khokon/ jamat.htm

Nushaiba Abubakar <bd.moveon@.. .> wrote:

What about the voilance and hostility by other party?

Are you suggesting that 100th rape celebration by a BCL's Jahangir Nagar university leader is any less of a crime than what happen in 1971?

Are you suggesting that Zainal hajarir's torture chamber is any less horrific? Or many atrocities that his personal mafia force have done during BAL regime 1996-2001?

How about Samim Osman and Abul hasnat abdullah's atrocities during BAL regime?

That's why I said "it should be completely a judiciary matter". Only a formal court can sort this out. Criminals should be punished for their crime regardless of which party they are with. Criminals are criminals, no matter which party they are in.

Just because one supports Democratic Party does not make him unpatriotic even though the party opposed Vietnam War. Just because one supports BJI, does not make him unpatriotic even though the party opposed independence. Criminals in anti-war violent protest (supporter of Democratic Party) are criminals. They are criminals because they broke the law, not because they opposed war! Similarly criminals in anti-independent atrocities in Bangladesh are criminals. They are criminals because they broke the law, not because they opposed independence!

Politicians take sides one way or other all the time. They gain politically if they take the "right" side. They loose politically if they take the "wrong" side. This is a common practice in democratic society.

Do you think Maulana Abul Kalam Azad (the big one) was a traitor because he opposed independent Pakistan? Are you suggesting us to "Hate" him?

Do you think everyone in Kashmir support independent Kashmir? Do we wipe out every one who opposes independent Kashmir if Kashmir (ever) gets independence?

What about other nations that split and got independence? I know some of you are like a frog in a pond who thought his pond is all that is in the universe. But in reality independences are very common phenomenon in the history of human civilization (may be in Dinosaurs' as well, who knows). Every time it happened there were two camp, one those who supported and one those who opposed.

Please stop spreading hate. May be there is very little love in your life, but there is no harm seeking more!

--- On Sat, 10/25/08, K B M Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: K B M Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: [reform-bd] Jamaat reformed its constitution
To: reform-bd@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 1:53 AM

".....non-sense anti-Jamaat patriotism stupidity... ." is a very strong statement aimed at covering up the years of violence against unequipped regular public, not for agreeing with jamat's evil persistence the way they make. A bit we can understand from this statement in quotation by the following jamat supporter.

The reality is that the Jamat did so much violence against non-jamatis and general public, from the time of their inception (Moududi's rise), and this pile got so bigger that will never get wiped off, whatever new policy Jamat takes, not even by their sincere and serious efforts and repentances or even by serious tauba.

In the name of religion, they did so much heinous crimes and constantly remained engaged in so much in violence and inhumanity, that must be called for being accountable, rather just go away, like 90 thousand Pakistani killer soldier escaped without any punishments, who were heavily favored and helped by the jamatis also. The character swap is impossible to believe in.

To: reform-bd@yahoogrou ps.com
From: bd.moveon@yahoo. com
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:50:13 -0700
Subject: [reform-bd] Jamaat reformed its constitution

Can we stop this non-sense anti-Jamaat patriotism stupidity? We are a democratic nation (or that's what we claim). If you don't like Jamaat, don't vote for it. Vote for the other guys (I do). Why you have to `wipe out` a party just because you don't like it?

If anyone did any crime (I am sure some of them did, and did a lot), it should be completely a judiciary matter. Why are you jumping up and down? Just file a case against the criminal(s). If court rule, we all will comply with that.

If you keep referring to incidents happened 37 years ago, doesn't it mean these people have been good for all the life of Bangladesh? In fact they were better than you all these years, isn't it? That's why you have to bring in the 37-yer old story even before Bangladesh was born.

I don't care who laved me before I born. I don't care who `did not want me` before I born. I want to know who loved me after I born. I want to know who love me now. That is exactly what Bangladesh wants to know.

If you want to tell me that you love me, start behaving nice to me. If you want to tell Bangladesh that you love her, stop spreading hate, and start behaving a civilized human being. Start working on what is good for her. Start showing respect to her every child i.e. citizen.

And what ever you do, for god sake, stop talking in past sense. Its becoming pathetic. 37 year ago, you may have been a young, hot and cute looking guy. So what? You want me to marry you today for that? Are you kidding me?

Let's move on!.