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Friday, September 26, 2008

[vinnomot] Re: [khabor.com] Sex with slaves and captives!

Response to non-Muslim "Anis Rahman" and his brainless mentor SKM

More than 1.5 billion people all over the world believe in Muhammad
(P) as a Messenger of God. They also have the most logical, rational,
scientific, positive, and progressive Book, the Quran, in their hand.
According to many Western Media, Islam is the fastest growing
religion in the West, and majority of the converts come from
Christian background. Therefore, Muslims are not here to be
apologetic to some rats, rabid dogs, and pig headed animals for their
belief.

Understood, mr. rat?

No offense!

Raihan
Love and Commitment!

--- In khabor@yahoogroups.com, Anis Rahman <anis90242@...> wrote:

Where is Imam, Alem, Mullah Hujur, where are they, some one should
come forward and proof that SKM is wrong and saved our beloved
Prophet, where are all those Imam who deliver Khutba every Friday
prayer, where are Muslims brothers, some one come forward and defend
the character of Prophet (PBH).

I wonder when Muslim Ummah will wake up with a new dawn and leave all
these fake religion behind.

No offense
 
Anis Rahman
Love and Commitment

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Syed Mirza <mirza.syed@...> wrote:

From: Syed Mirza <mirza.syed@...>
Subject: Re: [khabor.com] Sex with slaves and captives!
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 5:14 PM

 
Prophet Muhammad had sex with concubines and slave girls

Like any other ordinary man, leader, or king of the 7th century
period, Prophet Muhammad also readily had sex with his slave girls or
concubines he got as reward from other kings, or from war booty.
These unethical sexual behaviors had been recorded in the Quranic
verses, sahih hadiths and Islamic history.
 
Prophet's zeal of having sex with captives owned from war booty:
 
Jewish young lady Shafiyya was captive (booty) from the battle of
Khyber. Shafiyya was paragon beauty and was very young (in her teen)
when she was forcibly married by Prophet Muhammad (after killing her
all relatives including her newly married husband only to have sex
with her same day in a hurry) in the caravan tent while returning to
Medina. Shafiyya was first distributed (booty from the battle of
Khyber)) to other Islamic soldiers, but when Prophet Muhammad heard
about her paragon beauty then he took her for his wife.  Reyhana was
another very beautiful and young Jewish girl (Booty from Banu
Quryza).
 
Of course, Prophet of Islam had formidable license from Allah to have
sex with slave girls and concubines. Below I am giving the readers
some "Gems" from Holy Quran:
 
(QURAN - 70:22-30): "Not so the worshippers, who are steadfast in
prayer, who set aside a due portion of their wealth for the beggar
and for the deprived, who truly believe in the Day of Reckoning and
dread the punishment of their Lord (for none is secure from the
punishment of their Lord); who restrain their carnal desire (save
with their wives and their slave girls, for these are lawful to them:
he that lusts after other than these is a transgressor. .."
This verse very clearly stated that Quran allows Muslim men to have
sex with their wives (of course) and their slave girls too.
 
(QURAN - 23:5, 6): "...who restrain their carnal desires (except with
their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them..."
Again, Quran allows Muslim men to have sexual relations with their
wives and slave girls.
 
(QURAN - 4:24): "And all married women are forbidden unto you save
those captives whom your right hand possesses. It is a decree of
Allah for you. (Muhammad Pickthall's English translation of the
Quran).
 
In this above verse Allah clearly says Muslims to have sex with
captives (Booty from POWs) that they get from war booty. 
 
(QURAN - 33:50):
 
"O Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives whom you have
granted dowries and the captive and  slave girls whom God has given
you as booty; and the daughters of your 'Amm (paternal uncles) and
the daughters of your 'Ammah (paternal aunts) and the daughters of
your Khâl (maternal uncles) and the daughters of your Khâlah
(maternal aunts) who migrated (from Makkah) with you,……."
 
This above verse is for Prophet Muhammad only. Supposedly, Allah
(SBT.) allows Prophet Muhammad to have sex with his slave girls he
got from war booty and also can have sex with the daughters of his
maternal uncles and paternal aunts. 
 
The above verses are only a few I have mentioned out of numerous such
verses scattered throughout the Quran. What could be more unethical
matter than having sex with slave girls? Allah (SBT) graciously
allowed Muslims to have sex with slave girls and captives from the
war (POWs). Prophet Muhammad himself and his disciples routinely used
to have sex with their slave girls. Besides having numerous wives,
Prophet Muhammad had many concubines and slaves girls with whom he
had sex. This fact can be supported by ahadiths, and by the book
of "Sirat-A-Rasul" (life history of prophet).  
 
Many Middle Eastern Muslims countries still follows Quranic privilege
of having sex with their slave girls. In Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and
other Islamic paradise Arab Muslim masters are routinely having sex
with their maids even today. Frequently we get to read many horrific
cases of sex-scandals about maids in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere. Very
recently we read the news of numerous (hundreds of) sex-scandals with
Indonesian maids in Saudi Arabia. This is the Islamic privilege
(Allah SBT so graciously sanctioned in the holy Quran) which is
prevailing in the most Muslims countries even today?   
 
F. Evidences that Prophet Muhammad lied with his wife Hafsa 
 
The holy prophet Muhammad used to lie with his wives to save himself
from the frequent sexual scandals he used to generate to fulfill his
carnal desire. The story of Muhammad having sex with Mariyah in
Hafsa'a bed is found in Muir's biography of Muhammad ('Life of
Mahomet' by Sir William Muir which is absolutely based on authentic
Islamic sources. Please refer to Vol.IV Ch.26 pp. 160-163). Also, I
will give the readers some sahih Hadiths which will surprise the
readers.

This immoral story was narrated like this:

One-day Muhammad goes to Hafsa's house and upon setting gaze at her
maid Mariyah, he finds her attractive and decides to get laid. He
sends Hafsa to Omar's house, telling her that her father wanted to
see her (a lie). When Hafsa leaves, Muhammad takes Mariyah to bed and
had intercourse with her. Meanwhile Hafsa, who finds out that her
father was not expecting her, returns home much sooner than expected,
and to her surprise finds her illustrious husband in bed with her
maid.

She becomes hysteric and forgetting the station of the prophet she
shouts and causes a scandal. The prophet pleads with her to calm down
and promises not to sleep with Mariah again and forbade her also not
to divulge that secret to others.

Hafsa would not control herself and relays everything to Ayisha who
also turned against the prophet and jointly with his other wives
caused him much anguish. So the prophet decides to punish all of them
by not sleeping with them for one month. At this time he received a
message from heaven (Sura- 66: At-Tahrim) not to separate himself
from Mary. Then he chided Hafsa and other wives. He threatened to
divorce all them for their insubordination and disloyalty. He then
withdrew himself and went into seclusion for a whole month and lived
alone with Mary.
 
That of course would have been too much hardship for the beloved
messenger of God. Therefore God in his mercy comes to the aid of his
prophet and reveals the Surah At-Tahrim (Banning). In this Surah
Allah gently rebukes Muhammad for being so hard on himself and for
depriving himself from what he really likes and has been made lawful
to him, in order to please his wives.  As usual, like the scandalous
issue of marrying his adopted son's wife, Merciful Allah was always
ready to rescue him from all kinds of dangers. Allah (SWT) again
extended his mighty hand to help his comrade Prophet Muhammad. He
sent Quranic dictums to protect His comrade. The following is the
text of this funny Surah: At-Tahrim: 1-5 (From Dr. Ali Sina's
essay "Immorality and lewdness").
1. O Prophet! Why do you ban (for yourself) that which Allâh has made
lawful to you, seeking to please your wives? And Allâh is Oft-
Forgiving, Most Merciful.
2. Allâh has already ordained for you (O men), the dissolution of
your oaths. And Allâh is your Maula (Lord, or Master, or Protector,
etc.) and He is the All-Knower, the All-Wise.
3. And (remember) when the Prophet (SAW) disclosed a matter in
confidence to one of his wives (Hafsah), so when she told it (to
another i.e. 'Aishah), and Allâh made it known to him, he informed
part thereof and left a part. Then when he told her (Hafsah) thereof,
she said: "Who told you this?" He said: "The All-Knower, the All-
Aware (Allâh) has told me".
4. If you two (wives of the Prophet SAW, namely 'Aishah and Hafsah)
turn in repentance to Allâh, (it will be better for you), your hearts
are indeed so inclined (to oppose what the Prophet SAW likes), but if
you help one another against him (Muhammad SAW), then verily, Allâh
is his Maula (Lord, or Master, or Protector, etc.), and Jibrael
(Gabriel), and the righteous among the believers, and furthermore,
the angels are his helpers.

5. It may be if he divorced you (all) that his Lord will give him
instead of you, wives better than you, Muslims (who submit to Allâh),
believers, obedient to Allâh, turning to Allâh in repentance,
worshipping Allâh sincerely, fasting or emigrants (for Allâh's sake),
previously married and virgins. "

Although Muhammad gave his word to Hafsa, not to have sex with her
maid, he could not resist the temptation. Especially now that he had
taken another oath not to sleep with all of his wives. It was a
difficult situation. On one hand he had to keep up his word or risk
losing face and on the other he was not the kind of man that liked to
deprive himself of pleasures. A solution had to be found and no one
but Allah could help him. Well, nothing is impossible when you are
the prophet of Allah. Leave everything in the hands of the Almighty
and let him take care of it. And that is exactly what Muhammad did.
Allah himself intervened and gave his favorite prophet the green
light to follow his heart's desire. In the Surah Tahrim God licensed
his beloved prophet to have his fling and not pay attention to his
wives. What can a prophet ask more? Allah was so concerned about
Muhammad's carnal pleasures that he even allowed all his followers to
break their oaths as a
bounty. Subhanillah. Isn't Allah great?
It is also worthy of mention that Muhammad who came to know that
Hafsa did reveal the secret to Aisha, lied to her by pretending that
it was Allah who told him so (verse 3) while he actually learned it
from Aisha. In reaction to the above verses, Ayisha, who was not only
young and pretty but also clever, is reported to have said to
Muhammad, "Your God indeed rushes in coming to your aid!"
 
SKM
 
 
 

 
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:36 AM, <msa40@...> wrote:

Reading these Hadiths will earn many sawabs for the Muslims:
 

Sex with Slaves and Captives
"Can one travel with a slave-girl without knowing whether she is
pregnant or not? Al-Hasan found no harm in her master's kissing or
fondling with her.
Ibn 'Umar said, 'If a slave-girl who is suitable to have sexual
relations is given to somebody as a gift, or sold or manumitted
[freed], her master should not have sexual intercourse with her
before she gets one menstruation so as to be sure of absence of
pregnancy, and there is no such necessity for a virgin.'
'Ata said, 'There is no harm in fondling with one's pregnant (1)
slave-girl without having sexual intercourse with her. Allah
said: 'Except with their wives and the (women captives) whom their
right hands possess (for in this case they are not to be blamed).'"
Footnote (1) says, "Pregnant from another man, not her present
master." Bukhari vol.3 book 34 (Book of Sales i.e. Bargains) ch.113
after no.436 p.239-240. (Same 'Ata as previous.)
"Narrated Abu Sai'id Al-Khudri that while he was sitting with Allah's
Apostle he said, 'Oh Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our
share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your
opinion about coitus interruptus? ' [a sexual practice] The Prophet
said, 'Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it, No
soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come
into existence." Bukhari vol.3 book 34 (Book of Sales i.e. Bargains)
ch.111 no.432 p.237.
"Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Sa'id Al-
Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-'Azl (i.e. coitus
interruptus) . Abu Sai'id said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle for
the Ghazwa [battle] of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from
among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard
on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to
do coitus interruptus, we said, 'How can we do coitus interrupts
before asking Allah's Apostle who is present among us?' We asked
(him) about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so, for
if any soul till the Day of Resurrection is predestined to exist, it
will exist." Bukhari vol.5 book 59 (Book of Military Expeditions)
ch.31 no.459 p.317. This says the same as Bukhari vol.8 book 77 (Book
of al-Qadr) ch.3 no.600 p.391. In other words, what will be will be,
so do not stop unnaturally part way. Prophet Mohammad never
criticized sexually
molesting captives or slaves that a man owns.
 

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