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Monday, September 1, 2008

[vinnomot] Re: FW: [khabor.com] Mr. Asghar's another deception

Dear Members,

Let me remind you that this so-called "Kajimel Raisuddin" is not a
Muslim although he was pretending to be so in a debate with another
person in khabor forum! I am saying "so-called Kajimel Raisuddin"
because this is a fake name. He is an old chap with a new skin. He
came forward to rescue Syed Mirza (another fake name) couple of days
ago in khabor forum. Now the charlatan has come forward to rescue Mr.
Ashghar knowing the fact that both of them are being used as anti-
Muslim slaves since 9-11 drama. And btw, this Kajimel Raisuddin has
also been exposed in notun_bangladesh forum by many members.

Kajimel Raisuddin wrote: "So, we see that ALLAH is claiming to be the
best of the creators. HE is indicting BA'L as an alternate creator.
But HE (Allah) is claiming to be the best of the creators."

Mr. Ashghar's ignorance has already been exposed very clearly in my
previous response. Yet this charlatan has come forward to rescue him
using lies and deception. The charlatan should read the verse once
again:

So also was Elias among those sent (by Us). Behold, he (Elias) said
to his people, "Will ye not fear (Allah)? Will ye call upon Baal and
forsake the Best of Creators. Allah, your Lord and Cherisher and the
Lord and Cherisher of your fathers of old?" (Quran 37: 123-126)

Source: http://www.quran.org/quran/quran4/

So, it was Prophet Elias, and not Allah, who was addressing to his
people.

Anyway, I can't teach an old dog a new trick. If he thinks he is
sound enough to debate with me on the Qur'anic issues, then he is
welcome in shodalap.com site to open a debate. Otherwise he will be
exposed in time if he keeps preaching his anti-Islamic trash.

Raihan

--- In vinnomot@yahoogroups.com, Kajimel Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@...>
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> Dear Readers, The following Quranic verse in quotation is
translated by parts of the sentences: "Iz k'ala likaumihi ala
tattakun. Atadu'na BA'LAN wa tazaruna ahsan el khalikina. ALLAHu
rabbakum wa rabba abaikumul awwalin." (Quran 37:124-126)(a) Iz k'ala
likaumihi: Remember HE told his clan(b) ala tattakun.: Won't you be
careful?(c) Atadu'na BA'LAN: Would you invite BA'L (d) wa tazaruna:
And you will leave (e) ahsan el khalikina.: The best of the
creators? (f) ALLAHu rabbakum: Allah is you MASTER(g) wa rabba
abaikumul awwalin.: And the MASTER of your fore-fathers. So, we see
that ALLAH is claiming to be the best of the creators. HE is
indicting BA'L as an alternate creator. But HE (Allah) is claiming to
be the best of the creators. The radicals will never accept the
meaning because they are all pre-programmed. They will not even
hesitate to avert the exact meaning of something that is very true,
if that goes against their favor. That's why flat-earth society
exists, seven sky theory persists, 5000 year old world concept
ushers, earth is the center of universe is in sermons, sun goes
around the earth to create day and night is still believed, this
world is bad but hereafter is good is is drummed loudly, women are
men's body part is still a theory, etc. etc. .............. The most
dangerous people on the face of the earth are the so called top
literate folks in non-religious disciplines but remains religiously
radical who set their minds to specific plan to shape everything the
way they want, they orchestrate vehimantly their ideas, whether or
not supported by the verifiable truths or logics. Thanks and have a
great day. Regards,KR
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> To: khabor@yahoogroups.com; notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com;
progressive-muslim@yahoogroups.com; dahuk@yahoogroups.com;
vinnomot@...: ahumanb@...: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:47:11 -0700Subject:
[khabor.com] Mr. Asghar's another deception
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> Mr. Asghar quoted a Qur'anic verse 37:125 out of context and
claimed that Allah is talking about multiple Creators! Here is the
verse 37:125 in context:
> So also was Elias among those sent (by Us). Behold, he (Elias) said
to his people, "Will ye not fear (Allah)? Will ye call upon Baal and
forsake the Best of Creators. Allah, your Lord and Cherisher and the
Lord and Cherisher of your fathers of old?" (Quran 37:123-126)
> So, it is clearly seen that it was Prophet Elias, and not Allah,
who was addressing to his people. During and before 7th century and
still now, a group of people used to worship so many gods who,
according to their belief, take care of different creations in the
world. For example, according some beliefs, there is a god of rain,
there is a god of volcano and earthquake, there is a god of
knowledge, there is a god of good, there is a god of evil, there is a
good of food, there is a god of money and wealth, etc. Prophet Elias
was addressing to these kinds of people who believed in many worldly
gods and idols the way Mr. Asghar and Kamran Mirza believe in Bush to
be one of their gods or idols! In their write-ups, Mr. Ashghar and
Kamran Mirza have admitted that they used to worship moon god, black
box (Kaa'ba), and the vulva of al-Uzza! So, they have admitted the
fact (out of foolishness!) that they were never any sort of Muslim,
although they have been claiming to be ex-Muslim since 9-11 drama to
get special attention from their masters.
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> The funny think is that a blind robot (a.k.a Kamran Mirza)
swallowed Mr. Asghar's deception (?) without ever re-checking the
verse! So, his "Islamic puzzle" has been bounced back to his robotic
head with a massive thrust! It sounds like two robots have been
fooled by each other!!!
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