People with little or knowledge of history of Ottoman Empire should not be issuing their Verdicts on big issues like these.
FACTS:
1. Once mighty Ottoman Empire had ruled up to Central Asia.
2. It had later also extended up to Morocco.
3. It had also ruled Greece, Yugoslavia, Austria, Hungary, Romania, parts of Poland and Italy.
But before birth of Kamal ata Turk, ...
* Ottoman Empire had lost all European Colonies.
* Ottoman Empire had sided with Hapsburg Hungro Austrian Empire in the WW I and had lost.
* All Arabic Speaking nations of Ottoman Empire from Morocco to Gulf had revolted against the Caliph of Ottoman Empire and had become agents of Great Britain and France declaring themselves independent.
* Ottoman Empire was already dead, Greek and Indian British Army (of which half were Punjabi Moslims) had invaded Turkey and conquered half of it, when General Mostafa Kamal stood up in their way, gathered retreating Turkish Troops and attacked back to defend his country against the wishes of Caliph, who had become a puppet of British.
* Kamal became a hero of Turkey, when he successfully made Greek and Indian British Army leave Turkey.
* The Caliph had refused authority of General Kamal therefore, he had exiled him to Italy, where he lived happily ever after on British Pension.
* Mollaas of 'Ikhwanol Moslimeen' tried to assassinate Kamal and then they had tried to overthrow him so, he had slaughter about a thousand of them.
* Kamal's hate for Arabs had increased so much that he had switched Turkish Language from Perso-Arab (same as Urdu) Script to Roman Script.
* Kamal had wanted to eradicate all effects of Arabs, who had forgotten that Turks are also Moslims and had slaughtered them from Morocco to Arabia mercilessly during revolt against the Caliph but he didn't succeed. He had tried to change Nmaaz in to Turkish language Nmaaz and Azaan also.
MISMANAGEMENT OF OTTOMAN EMPIRE BY CALIPHS:
1. Caliphs had no Administrative or Economic Sense.
2. They used to become Caliphs because they were the ones of the Princes, who were good in Palace Intrigues, not the ones, who knew, how to run the Empire.
3. Administrative Mismanagement led to fall of Empire from Central Asia to Persia.
4. Economic Mismanagement led to heavy Gold Coin borrowing from Merchants of Venice, Italy because there was no IMF and World was run on Gold Standard in those days.
5. Loan Defaults had caused Merchants of Venice become the authoritative Tax Collectors of the Empire because how else could they loan more without recovering that they had already loaned?
6. Caliphs had become Puppets of Mollaas and in the beginning they had even resisted new Weapons for the Army because Mollaas had declared that it was against Islam to use the new Invention of Cannons and Rifles.
7. Mollaas had first Medical University of the world dismantled Brick by Brick because they had declared the method of its Teaching un-Islamic. The Caliph had agreed.
8. Teaching of Astronomy, Physics, Chemistry, Anatomy, Biology etc were declared un-Islamic by the Caliph listening to Mollaas. The Reason was, that all books on these subjects were written by Moslim Scientists, who had already been declared Kaafir and were executed on Edicts of Mollaas. Their books were banned though some of such Infidels had escaped to Italy and had been offered jobs in European Universities. All such banned books of Science were being translated in Europe and taught to leave Moslims behind in Sciences.
9. Almost all the later Caliphs of Ottoman Empire were illiterates and didn't understand any Sciences.
10. Almost all later Caliphs were rather more like illiterate Politicians than educated smart leaders with knowledge and Vision.
There's a lesson to learn from this story instead of blindly backing a Caliphate for all Moslims of the world. 'A Momin can not be stung out of same hole twice' (the Holy Prophet to Hzt. Abu Bakr after he was bit by a Snake, while he was asleep in cave escaping or on his way to Medina 622 A.D.).
Allaho Akbar ...!
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Only reason is Anglo Saxons destroyed 1300 years old Caliphate in 1914/1916 and Seceret Jew Ataturk, the Turk abolished it in 1923.Caliphate is the only solution. Rest is here in:Thanks,-S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal. net>: ------------ --
I agree.Phrase, 'US-occupied Moslim Country' is used so frequently by Mollaas and Mollaanis like none of us know the reality. US Army is still in some European Countries and Japan since WW II is anybody calling the 'US-occupied Countries' or are they not free?If being fools the JehaaDis keep attacking US Army, it would definitely retaliate. Why you created such circumstances that US Army landed in your countries to start with and why are you creating such circumstances in Pakistan now by keep sending your Suicide Bombers to kill Pak Army Soldiers and other innocent people?Because you are ignorant illiterate JehaaDis, not because you are more Moslims than us. Similarly, you have put a lot stuff on Internet to prove US Army is killing your people like we do not know, what your people are doing to US Army.You tell us that US Army has killed more Moslims than your Terrorists have killed, when its just the reverse. In Sunni-Shiyah in-fighting has killed many times more Iraqis than US and her allies have. Moslim Countries themselves have killed millions of their own in last half century than any Non Moslims. Why do you think, we should believe you, when you people keep lying constantly?
Faiz <tahirakhan@comcast.net> wrote:<<<with their tunnel vision could only see Iranian execution of criminals. >>>How do you know they were criminals? Please fear Allah and heed His warning against spreading falsehood and speculation (17:36). You don't know them, nor do you know the "crime" they committed. In fact, ever since the true butcher Khomeini came to power and brutalized the Iranian people, I have hardly seen any "justice" done by the idol worshiping, stupid, totally Qur'an-illiterate theocratic morons.I don't know anything about the 'crime' these men committed because there is no information available in the video, but I can tell from the way these brutal, cruel, unscientific hangings were conducted that perhaps no proper channels of justice were never followed, nor was any scientific and civilized way of taking a human life was pursued if at all the 'crime' was proven against them.Bint, Tarek Fateh is showing you the face of theocratic horror and crude, ugly human behavior--perhaps a travesty of justice. Are you criticizing him for showing you Iranian ugliness? This tell me a great deal about your own idiocy and immature attitude, not his.Irfan----- Original Message -----From: Bint WaleedThere are hundreds of pictures and dozen of videos on the internet for the world to see the naked brutality and contempt for humanity of western forces in the occupied Muslim lands but the useful idiots with their tunnel vision could only see Iranian execution of criminals.Is their any height of servility for these useful idiots! I guess not.
Tarek Fatah <tarekfatah@rogers.com > wrote:Dear friends,To all those who are mistakenly fascinated by the Iranian regime for supposedly standing up to the US, we are guilty of exonerating one of the planet's most horrendous offender of human rights.I have just seen a video of the public hanging of four young Baloch men in a city square in Iranian Balochsitan. This video taen by a bystander is very disturbing and therefore, I am not attaching it with this message.If any oen you wish to see this horrible and medieval public hanging amidst celebartions and yells of "Allah O Akbar," please send me an e-mail message at tarekfatah@rogers.com and I will send you the link privately.Best wishes,Tarek
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