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Saturday, March 29, 2008

[vinnomot] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Liberation War veterans of Indian Army.........Slaves of Indira Gandhi!

This "Mowlana Bhasani said Pakistan did not do the damage which India did 24 days" is another new lie & propoganda of the Paki-RAZAKAR.
 
All (95%) Paki-Razakar are number one liar

 
On 3/27/08, Md. Mostafa Kamal <mmk3k@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Joy,
 
I again saying our freedom fighters have done the 90% job by paying their lives. But as you know most of the Indians are still not accepted the partition of 1947. I have full respect to our great freedom fighters. It was never easy to beat the well trained Pak Army. They were inspired by our country & its people. But India only thought its own favor & benefit. They are not friendly that is why I am saying we should not do DOHORROM MOHORROM or too much appreciations. As you know after 16/12/1971 the Indian army looted many of the industries & other sectors. Mowlana Bhasani said Pakistan did not do the damage which India did 24 days after 16th December. If Indian govt. was sincere enough that loot never be happened. Unfortunately some of the freedom fighters are the blind followers of India, which they never protest against India's miss-behaviour with us. That is why I do not like to give any thank to the Indian army but just a simple thank to give the finishing of war in 1971. Look at 1944-45 when US freed France, Belgium, The Netherlands but never treated badly as like as India. I hope you will understand. Mr. Joy please keep writing.
 
Thank You All,
 
Md. Mostafa Kamal.

akj wso <aamra_korbo_joy@yahoo.com> wrote:
there is no greater misfortune for us that we have a nasty neighbour like india.  it is true for all the nations that have common border with this ugly nation.  they did not do any good to us or any of her neighbours.
 
it is true, india wanted to break pakistan.  the fact is, we also wanted the same.  only razakars and albadars did not want it to happen.  so, if india wanted to break pakistan that decision favoured us.  i shall blame india for everything but its efforts to break pakistan.  this was not possible for us to emerge as a free and independent nation without breaking out of pakistan.
 
this is my personal view.  one has full liberty to agree or not agree to it.  but, there is no other country or nation in the world who i hate more than india.  as a soldier i have learned the principle in a war, "my enemy's enemy is my friend."  in 1971 india was my friend, russia was my friend, pakistan, china, usa etc were my enemies.  that was not a permanent friendship.  it was a strategic friendship for the war period only.
 
joy
rajshahi


"Md. Mostafa Kamal" <mmk3k@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mr. Aslam,
 
I did not born before 1971. My birth was few years after our liberation war & even after 1975. I have growned up seeing the India's stepmom behaviour with Bangladesh.
 
Look your act is "CHORER MON POLICE POLICE". You still not accept the partition of 1947 that is why you have brought a writing comparing Israel Vs Pakistan. If the 1947 East Pakistan wasn't borned how could we get Bangladesh? Answer it. I am very much happy & all the thanks to Great Allah that I not only born in an Independent Bangladesh but also a sovereign Bangladesh in the period of Shaheed Ziaur Rahman. I have mentioned that our freedom fighters have done the main job in 1971 but India had no sincerity but you're cunningly make questionable to my patriotism for my country. It is you who want to go back before 1947 & I respect all the incidents of 1947 & 1971 & 7/11/1975. Only the tabeders of India will raise question & make doubts of my patriotism.
 
As a patriot of Bangladesh I have the every right to consider & analyze the Indian role during 1971 & till today. You & your Tabedar BAL gong may deny or avoid the comments of Rahul Gandhi but that will not hide the truth & facts. India is a very matlabbaz country. Just a simple thank is enough for them. I mentioned to put a limit & not so dohorom-mohorom & tabederi with them.
 
Look when ever challenge comes from Pakistan to India you seems to be too worried. May I know why? I am happy in this sub-continent there is a country who can challenge India. I think you do not like it. Ghaznavi missile just another success of Pakistan defence system. So why did you write against it?
 
Look some persons from this 56000 sqr. miles may chose Pakistan as their country but that doesn't mean we will stop criticizing India.
 
Look your India is behind to break Bangladesh's unity which they are allowing Nikhil Bongo Andolon gong..(27th March 2008 in the Daily Nayadiganta)
 
 
In the past the Indians backed the tribal terrorist Shanti Bahini & now their x-army personals observing our Independence day......what a joke? Look the truth is unvailed to the real patriots of Bangladesh. But you as Dalal personals will never accept the comments of Rahul Gandhi & that is the burning fact.
 
Thank You All,
 
Md. Mostafa Kamal.

Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr. Md. Mostafa Kamal
 
It seems, you are unhappy over the fact that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan
was broken and as a result the People's Republic of  Bangladesh emerged
as an Independent nation.
 
Breaking of Pakistan definitely serves India's geopolitical interest.
India's help for our Great Liberation War was not a charity......
it was Win-Win for both for the people of India and the people of
Bangladesh.
 
We Bangladeshis don't care what Rahul Gandhi says .....any case
his rethoric & bragging was for local politics and does not concern us
in any material sense, specially in the current geopolitical context.
 
You seem to be very angry that Bangladesh has happened ....
 
Where were you in 1971? What did you do? Be honest and tell your story!
 
You have the habit of supporting Pakistan through your innuendos.
You were very upbeat when Mr. Javed Iqbal Kaleem posted
"Pak Army Launches Ghaznavi Missile" few weeks before the election in
Pakistan. ...[Sorry, it didn't help Musarraff to win the election !!!!]
 
Yes, you are right, "our freedom fighters fought heroic role to one purpose for the
independence of Bangladesh" .......the Jamaatis and the Islami Chattro Sangha
cadres were collaborating with our enemys the occupation Army of Pakistan.....
 
As we all know there is always a price for freedom and independence ..
 .... Bangladeshis paid with their blood... [Rokto the-a kena]
.........It is a shame that few people like you, living in Bangladesh still regret
for the break-up of Pakistan in 1971 ......[the collaborators still do it through their
euphemism ...]
 
The collaborators like Raja Tridib Chowdhuri and Mahmood Ali (Sylhet) stayed in
Pakistan  .... at the least they had some self-respect, they were not as shameless
as Jamaati Gholam Azam, Nizami et. el ........
 
As usual, you are trying divert from the main issue: 
 
Tell us, what do you think of General Moeen U. Ahmed's recent
initiatives?
 
 
Syed Aslam


On 3/26/08, akj wso <aamra_korbo_joy@yahoo.com> wrote:
mr. kamal,
 
despite everything, as these people helped us liberating our motherland (what we also wanted to do) let's not talk like that.
 
thousands of indian officers and soldiers have died in the process of helping us in getting out of the colonial rule of the westerners.  this could not have happened with out breaking pakistan.  we all have to agree that we wanted to separate.
 
i fully agree with the indian wrong actions before, during and even after 1971.  india should, rather must, be condemned for each and every wrong step (we should never forget and forgive india for the play that they have and still doing regarding rice exporting to our country)
 
i earnestly request you not to say something that will insult the indian shaheeds who gave life in the process of ensuring rise of our "shadhinotar lal shurjo".
 
don't mind my emotion please.
 
joy
rajshahi

"Md. Mostafa Kamal" <mmk3k@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mr. Aslam,
 
These Indian army persons just served the order of Late Indira Gandhi in 1971. Because India's purpose was to break Pakistan & never sincere to establish an independent Bangladesh. After 1971 & from 1972 India's real face unvailed to us. Mr. Aslam you must not forget Rahul Gandhi's comment "Like we have broken the Pakistan". You have the habits to bring Indian writers interests & appreciation of India in the e-forrums.
 
Thank You All,
 
Md.

Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:
Liberation War veterans of Indian Army to visit Bangladesh

A 10-member team of liberation war veterans led by Lt Gen (retd) JFR Jacob of Indian Army along with their spouses will visit Bangladesh on the occasion of 37th Independence and National Day, says an ISPR press release.

They will visit Bangladesh at the invitation of Chief of Army Staff General Moeen U Ahmed. During the visit the war veterans will call on chief of army staff.

The team is likely to visit various battle sites and other places of historic importance.

The visiting war veterans are Lt Gen (retd) PN Kathpalia, Lt Gen (retd) GS Bakshi, Maj Gen (retd) RK Khanna, Maj Gen (retd) Laxman Singh, Maj Gen (retd) Ashok Verma Kalyan, Brig (retd) Amrit Kapur
 
 
Also read:
 
  
 
 
 Lt Gen (retd) JFR Jacob of Indian Army
 
 Friends once more
Pranay Sharma
Monday, March 24, 2008  20:10 IST
Warm ties between India and Bangladesh are emerging again after a long gap
Symbols often play as important a role as words in diplomacy. Bangladesh has chosen one that could help strengthen ties with India. Nearly four decades after independence, Dhaka has decided to honour members of the Indian army who played a key role in its Liberation Struggle of 1971.
Lieutenant General JFR Jacob, who was the chief of staff of the Indian army's eastern command, with six of his former colleagues — all now retired — will be in Dhaka on March 26, Bangladesh's National Day. They are to be honoured with medals for their part in helping Bangladesh emerge as an independent nation out of East Pakistan.
From the time of Sheikh Mujib-ur-Rahman, the founder-figure of Bangladesh, Dhaka has acknowledged the role played by India in its Liberation Struggle. The first ever attempt to invite army personnel to Dhaka to honour them has come from Bangladesh army chief, General Moeen U Ahmed. It is the Bangladesh army that now supports the caretaker government of Fakhruddin Ahmed in Dhaka.
General Ahmed's move is both politically savvy and, some would say, morally correct. The support by India to Bangladesh during the Liberation Struggle has long faded from memory. Over 50 per cent of the population was born after independence; those who preceded it remember India more as the 'big bully' of the region than as the liberator.
In the past decades, both under army regimes as well as democratically elected governments in Bangladesh, Dhaka carefully erected an anti-Indian plank. It was seen by New Delhi as moving closer to China and, more importantly, to Pakistan. Many in the Indian establishment felt that this was due to strong pro-Pakistani elements in the Bangladesh army.
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